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|<!-- Hymotion --> [[Hymotion|PHEV-L5]] | |<!-- Hymotion --> [[Hymotion|PHEV-L5]] | ||
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> [[ | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-15-pnr.html Prius-15] / [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-30-pnr.html Prius-30] |
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− | |<b> | + | |<b>Conv. service: (9)</b> |
|<!-- CalCars --> No | |<!-- CalCars --> No | ||
|<!-- PiPrius --> No | |<!-- PiPrius --> No | ||
|<!-- EDrive --> Yes | |<!-- EDrive --> Yes | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> Yes, fleets | |<!-- Hymotion --> Yes, fleets | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Yes | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> Yes | ||
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− | |<b> | + | |<b>Conversion kit: (9)</b> |
|<!-- CalCars --> Yes | |<!-- CalCars --> Yes | ||
|<!-- PiPrius --> Yes | |<!-- PiPrius --> Yes | ||
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 15 (6) | |<!-- Hymotion --> 15 (6) | ||
|<!-- GoingGrn --> 30 | |<!-- GoingGrn --> 30 | ||
− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 30 | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 15 / 30 |
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 25 / 50 |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0 | |<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0 | ||
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0 | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 5.5 / 9.0 |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 12.5K+install<br>9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s | |<!-- Hymotion --> 12.5K+install<br>9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s | ||
|<!-- GoingGrn --> 22K now<br>13K late '06 | |<!-- GoingGrn --> 22K now<br>13K late '06 | ||
− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 32K now<br> | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 24K / 32K now<br>13K / 19 K mid '07 |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.0 | |<!-- Hymotion --> 5.0 | ||
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0 | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4.5 / 9.0 |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock | |<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock | ||
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 8 | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4 / 8 |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon) | |<!-- Hymotion --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon) | ||
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− | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> | + | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 600 / 1200 ea<br>[http://hybrids-plus.com/pmwiki/index.php?n=Ext.A123Cells 26650-size<br>A123-brand<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells]<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/products/ANR26650M1specs.pdf pdf] |
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|<!-- Hymotion --> < 1 day | |<!-- Hymotion --> < 1 day | ||
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# Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile [http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/solarpoweraugme.html ref], 1.5 miles with stock pack | # Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile [http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/solarpoweraugme.html ref], 1.5 miles with stock pack | ||
− | # During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization | + | # During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization. |
# Safety in case of major accident | # Safety in case of major accident | ||
## Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof. | ## Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof. | ||
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# No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack | # No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack | ||
# PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.<br>BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.<br>The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source). | # PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.<br>BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.<br>The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source). | ||
+ | # Conversion service: done by the PHEV conversion company, at their location.<br>Conversion kit: done by the owners in their hometown. |
Revision as of 14:16, 28 August 2006
Comparison table: PHEV conversion and kit options for the Toyota Prius: | ||||||
Organization: | CalCars | Manzanita Micro/ PiPrius |
EnergyCS/ EDrive Systems |
Hymotion | GoingGreen | Hybrids-Plus |
Location: | California | Washington | California | Ontario | UK | Colorado |
References: | PriusPlus, Maker Faire, EEEI Prius |
PriusBlue, PiPrius, Rich Rudman |
EDrive Richard Nortman |
Hymotion | web | Hybrids-Plus |
Product: | PiPrius | EDrive | PHEV-L5 | Prius-15 / Prius-30 | ||
Conv. service: (9) | No | No | Yes | Yes, fleets | Yes | |
Conversion kit: (9) | Yes | Yes | No | No | Future | |
Status: | Development | Development | Ready | Development | ||
No done so far: | 1 | 2 | 7 | 0 | ||
EV range [mi] (1): | 10 | 10 | 30 | 15 (6) | 30 | 15 / 30 |
PHEV range [mi] (2): | 20-30 | 50 | 25 / 50 | |||
AC power: | Universal: 90 to 300 Vac/Vdc |
120Vac | 120 / 220 Vac | 120 Vac | ||
Charge time [hours] (4): |
3.0 @ 120 Vac/ 0.3 @ 240 Vac |
9.0 | 5.5 / 4.0 | 5.5 / 9.0 | ||
Safety (3): | Flame-proof | Flame-proof | Flame-proof Spill proof |
Spill proof | Flame-proof Spill proof | |
Additional weight [kg]: |
90~130 | ~150 | 83 | 72 | ~60 | |
Tire access (7): | no | no | no | no | yes | |
Cost [US$]: | Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+ Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K Target: ~ 10K |
10K~12K | 12.5K+install 9.5K in 100s 6.5K in 1000s |
22K now 13K late '06 |
24K / 32K now 13K / 19 K mid '07 | |
Topology: | Stock pack + new pack w/contactor, stock BMS prev:Stock or new pack new BMS |
Stock pack + new pack w/DC-DC, stock BMS (8) |
new pack only, new BMS |
Stock pack + new pack, stock BMS |
Stock pack + new pack |
new pack only new BMS |
Pack energy [KWh]: | 4.7 | 9.0 | 5.0 | 4.5 / 9.0 | ||
Available energy [KWh] (5): |
? + 0.3 stock |
4 + 0.3 stock |
8 | 4 + 0.3 stock |
4 / 8 | |
Battery type: |
SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid) |
15 ea Hawker EP26 SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid) or pack of choice |
Valence Saphion phosphate cathode LiIon cells extracted from U-Charge packs |
Lithium polymer (future: A123 LiIon) |
600 / 1200 ea 26650-size A123-brand phosphate cathode LiIon cells | |
Instal. time: | future: < 1day |
< 1 day | 4 hrs /1 day | |||
Notes: | ||||||
Notes:
- Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile ref, 1.5 miles with stock pack
- During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization.
- Safety in case of major accident
- From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
- Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
- SLA: 0% down to 50%,
- Litium 0% down to 90%
- HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
- No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack
- PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.
BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.
The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source). - Conversion service: done by the PHEV conversion company, at their location.
Conversion kit: done by the owners in their hometown.