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2007-06-29T21:29:46Z

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2007-04-13T17:40:37Z

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-This from Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro:
+== This from Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro ==
+Rich said:
-I have two systems installed. We have 10 +miles range EV only I am not sure what the test variables are for Phev running.
+: "I have two systems installed. We have 10 +miles range EV only I am not sure what the test variables are for Phev running.
-The same charger that does the dc/Dc does the Grid recharge. We can sustain 30 plus amps of grid power at 240VAC That's 7.2Kw. We have data logs on a recahrge at less than 25 minutes. So we are in the .3 hours recharge range.
+: The same charger that does the dc/Dc does the Grid recharge. We can sustain 30 plus amps of grid power at 240VAC That's 7.2Kw. We have data logs on a recahrge at less than 25 minutes. So we are in the .3 hours recharge range.
-The BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode. Got the test done yesterday. Sweet operation. Oh yea the BMS is programmable with a laptop. With no security locks. I am doing this open source. We can and have extracted 4+ Kwhr from the add on pack.
+: The BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode. Got the test done yesterday. Sweet operation. Oh yea the BMS is programmable with a laptop. With no security locks. I am doing this open source. We can and have extracted 4+ Kwhr from the add on pack.
-The delivery cost is targeted at $10,000. I have my doubts that I can make the profit I want at this price. The brutal fact is anybody bragging about selling one of these kits for less than 10K is not looking at the bare bones costs of the hardware. I have to. since I am using my own funds, not some investors.
+: The delivery cost is targeted at $10,000. I have my doubts that I can make the profit I want at this price. The brutal fact is anybody bragging about selling one of these kits for less than 10K is not looking at the bare bones costs of the hardware. I have to. since I am using my own funds, not some investors.
-Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro"
+: Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro"
 --[[User:DavideAndrea|DavideAndrea]] 14:17, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
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 [[User:DavideAndrea|DavideAndrea]] 21:00, 10 January 2007 (CST)
-== Re:  Spill proof Lead-Acid? ==
+:No, it won't spill like a flooded cell would.  The electrolyte is suspended in fiberglass mat separators (a.k.a. absorbent glass mat - AGM.)  In theory, even if the battery is punctured, within the rated temperatures, it will not spill since the electrolyte is in the mat, although a solid acid powder will probably come out in small quantities, but not in a liquid.  If the battery is heated beyond its rated temperature (overcharge, short, etc), the electrolyte becomes liquid and can (and usually does) leak.  A big concern with a punctured battery are the lead plates and the lead powder that gets formed and comes out when punctured, which is a health concern (acid is too, but easier to deal with and clean up.) [[User:Cewert|Cewert]] 20:21, 10 January 2007
-No, it won't spill like a flooded cell would.  The electrolyte is suspended in fiberglass mat separators (a.k.a. absorbent glass mat - AGM.)  In theory, even if the battery is punctured, within the rated temperatures, it will not spill since the electrolyte is in the mat, although a solid acid powder will probably come out in small quantities, but not in a liquid.  If the battery is heated beyond its rated temperature (overcharge, short, etc), the electrolyte becomes liquid and can (and usually does) leak.  A big concern with a punctured battery are the lead plates and the lead powder that gets formed and comes out when punctured, which is a health concern (acid is too, but easier to deal with and clean up.)
+::Thanks![[User:DavideAndrea|DavideAndrea]] 00:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)
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 <ref name=spare_tire>
-'''Spare Tire access''' No = original tire well is covered or occupied by the new battery pack.  The spare must be secured and stowed in the rear cargo space.</ref>
+''Spare Tire access''
 <ref name=pfc_regs>
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 !	<!-- Ins Time -->	'''Install time [hours]<br><ref name=install_time/>'''<br>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[PriusPlus]]''':CA,CT [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars]
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[PriusPlus]]''':CA<ref>[[CalCars]] is based in California, however locations where progress is being made and help is available now include CA, CT, CO, IL, and TX.</ref> [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 No
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Status   -->	 Dev Doc
-|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 5<ref>[[CalCars]] completed the [[PriusPlus History|1st ever Prius PHEV conversion 11/04]], With four by 11/06 (one of which uses NiMH, and one which [[Inaugural Maker Faire|became the test bed for the PiPrius project]])</ref>
+|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 5<ref>[[CalCars]] completed the [[PriusPlus History|1st ever Prius PHEV conversion 11/04]], With six by 5/07 (One which [[Inaugural Maker Faire|became the test bed for the PiPrius project]], two of which uses NiMH, and the latest which retains the spare tire.)</ref>
 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 10-12
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 20+
 |	<!-- AC Input -->	 100 to 240 Vac
-|	<!-- Chg time -->	 3-11 <ref name=charge_time/>
+|	<!-- Chg time -->	 4+ <ref name=charge_time/>
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 Flame Spill proof
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 130+
-|	<!-- Spare    -->	 no
+|	<!-- Spare    -->	 Opt
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $4-$7K +Labor <ref>[[CalCars]] Batteries: ~$1K Charger: $0.9-$2K Total: $4-$7K + labor</ref>
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $3-$9K +Labor <ref>[[CalCars]] Batteries: ~$1K ($3-$5K for NiMH) Charger: $0.9-$2K Total: $3-$4K + labor for PbA conversions and an additional $3 to $5K for NiMH</ref>
 |	<!-- Topology -->	 Hyb Con CV
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.8
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy] NiMH in [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius], evaluating Lithium.</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy] NiMH in [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius] and Nilar NiMH in Nilar Prius, evaluating Lithium.
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 120-36 <ref>[[CalCars]] conversions are very hands on and from scratch, A crew of 5, 8 hours, 3 days = 120 hours.</ref>
 |-
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 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[PiPrius]] an installer familiars with the kit might complete a conversion in 8 hours, less experienced may spend 3 or more days.</ref>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[EnergyCS]]''':CA /'''[[Amberjac]]''':UK [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS] /[http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac]
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[EnergyCS]]''':CA [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 No
@@ Line 164: / Line 193: @@
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 9.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 8
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li<ref>[[EnergyCS]] uses [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] [http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion] phosphate cathode LiIon cells extracted from [http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge] packs</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li
-|	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[EnergyCS]] future:< 1day</ref>
+|	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[Amberjac]] future:< 1day</ref>
 |-
 |	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[EDrive]]''':CA [http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive Systems]
@@ Line 183: / Line 212: @@
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 9.5
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 8.5?
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li<ref>[[EDrive]] uses Laptop Cobalt LiIon 18650 cells</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li <ref>[[EDrive]] uses Laptop Cobalt LiIon 18650 cells</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 ???
 |-
@@ Line 202: / Line 231: @@
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 5.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li<ref>[[Hymotion]] uses Lithium polymer (future: A123 LiIon)</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li <ref>[[Hymotion]] uses Lithium polymer (future: A123 LiIon)</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 16-8 <ref>[[Hymotion]] < 1 day</ref>
 |-
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 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.5 / 9.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 4 / 8
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li<ref>[[Hybrids-Plus]] uses 600 or 1200 * 26650-size iron-phosphate cathode LiIon cells. Has also used Large format Lithium cells.</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 Li <ref>[[Hybrids-Plus]] uses 600 or 1200 * 26650-size iron-phosphate cathode LiIon cells. Has also used Large format Lithium cells.</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 4-24 <ref>[[Hybrids-Plus]] 4 hours is pretty quick, more time required for larger battery.</ref>
 |-

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 <ref name=energy>
 '''Available energy [KWh]''' Because the [[DOD]] of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (used). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
-# SLA: 0% down to 50%,
+# SLA: 0% down to 50%, due to [[Wikipedia:Peukert's law]] much of the nameplate capacity is unavailable.
-# Litium 0% down to 90%</ref>
+# Lithium: 0% down to 90%, has far less Peukert losses and can be safely deep discharged.</ref>
 <ref name=hymotion_range>
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 <ref name=status>
-'''Project Status'''
+''Project Status'':
-*''Doc: '' Open Source Documentation in progress.
+*'''Doc: ''' Open Source Documentation in progress.
-*''Dev: '' Development: Working vehicles on the road but some features still under development.
+*'''Dev: ''' Development: Working vehicles on the road but some features still under development.
-*''Prod:'' Production: Working vehicles on the road, performing conversions or supplying kits.</ref>
+*'''Prod:''' Production: Working vehicles on the road, performing conversions or supplying kits.</ref>
 <ref name=install_time>
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 <ref name=topology_type>
 * '''New'''  New Battery Pack and [[BMS]], the OEM NiMH battery and BMS are replaced with a [[Battery Pack Configurations#Simple|simple string]].
 * '''Hyb'''  OEM NiMH battery and additional battery are both utilized in a [[Battery Pack Configurations#Hybrid|hybrid battery pack configuration]], OEM [[BMS]] continues to manage OEM battery.

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 |-
+|
-<!-- {|class="wikitable sortable" -->
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="background:white; text-align:center; width:100%;"
 |- valign=bottom
-!	<!-- WebSite  -->	'''Organization''' ''external websites'' '''Location'''<br>
+!	<!-- WebSite  -->	'''Organization :Location Websites (Products)'''<br>
 !	<!-- Convert  -->	'''Conv. service<br><ref name=convert_service/>'''<br>
 !	<!-- Kits     -->	'''Conv. kit<br><ref name=convert_service/>'''<br>
@@ Line 112: / Line 109: @@
 !	<!-- Ins Time -->	'''Install time [hours]<br><ref name=install_time/>'''<br>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars] [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy] California, Connecticut
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[PriusPlus]]''':CA,CT [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 No
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Status   -->	 Dev Doc
-|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 5<ref>[[CalCars]] completed the 1st ever Prius PHEV conversion 11/04, With four by 11/06 (one of which uses NiMH, and one which became the test bed for the PiPrius project)</ref>
+|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 5<ref>[[CalCars]] completed the [[PriusPlus History|1st ever Prius PHEV conversion 11/04]], With four by 11/06 (one of which uses NiMH, and one which [[Inaugural Maker Faire|became the test bed for the PiPrius project]])</ref>
 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 10-12
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 20+
@@ Line 129: / Line 125: @@
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.8
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used NiMH, evaluating Lithium.  Must be a specific voltage.</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy] NiMH in [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius], evaluating Lithium.</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 120-36 <ref>[[CalCars]] conversions are very hands on and from scratch, A crew of 5, 8 hours, 3 days = 120 hours.</ref>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita Micro] [http://www.piprius.com PiPrius] [http://plugincenter.com/ AVI] Washington
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[PiPrius]]''':WA [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita Micro] [http://www.piprius.com] [http://plugincenter.com/ AVI]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 No
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Status   -->	 Dev Doc
-|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 4
+|	<!-- Num Cars -->	 4 <ref>[[PiPrius]] vehicles include [[PriusBlue]], [[WhiteBird]], and [[GrayPearl]].</ref>
 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 10
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 20-30
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 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[PiPrius]] an installer familiars with the kit might complete a conversion in 8 hours, less experienced may spend 3 or more days.</ref>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS] / [http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac] California / UK
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[EnergyCS]]''':CA /'''[[Amberjac]]''':UK [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS] /[http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 No
@@ Line 172: / Line 166: @@
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[EnergyCS]] future:< 1day</ref>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive Systems] California
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[EDrive]]''':CA [http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive Systems]
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 ?
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 ?
@@ Line 192: / Line 185: @@
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 ???
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion] / [http://www.a123systems.com/html/company.html A123] Ontario
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[Hymotion]]''':ON&nbsp;Canida [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion] /[http://www.a123systems.com/html/company.html A123] (PHEV-L5)
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 Yes, fleets
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 No
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 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 16-8 <ref>[[Hymotion]] < 1 day</ref>
 |-
-|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus] Colorado
+|	<!-- WebSite  -->	 '''[[Hybrids-Plus]]''':CO [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus] ([http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-15-pnr.html Prius-15] /[http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-30-pnr.html Prius-30])
 |	<!-- Convert  -->	 Yes
 |	<!-- Kits     -->	 Future

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 <ref name=install_time>
 '''Install time [hours]''' Times are estimates and best guess only.  Assumes 8 hour shift per individual.  Times of less than 24 hours might be performed in a single day by a crew of 3 or less.</ref>
 </div>
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 !	<!-- Spare    -->	'''Spare Tire<br><ref name=spare_tire/>'''<br>
 !	<!-- Cost     -->	'''Cost [US$]'''<br>
-!	<!-- Topology -->	'''Topology'''<br>
+!	<!-- Topology -->	'''Type'''<br><ref name=topology_type/>'''<br>
 !	<!-- Energy   -->	'''Pack energy [KWh]'''<br>
 !	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	'''DOD energy [KWh]<br><ref name=energy/>'''<br>
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 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 10-12
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 20+
-|	<!-- AC Input -->	 120-240 VAC
+|	<!-- AC Input -->	 100 to 240 Vac
-|	<!-- Chg time -->	 3 to 80%<br>11 to 100% <ref name=charge_time/>
+|	<!-- Chg time -->	 3-11 <ref name=charge_time/>
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 Flame Spill proof
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 130+
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 no
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 Batts: ~1K<br>Chgr: 0.9-2K<br>Sum: 4-7K+labor
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $4-$7K +Labor <ref>[[CalCars]] Batteries: ~$1K Charger: $0.9-$2K Total: $4-$7K + labor</ref>
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 Hyb Con CV
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.8
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used NiMH and may use Lithium in the future.</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[CalCars]] uses 20 * BB Battery EVP20-12B SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid).  Have used NiMH, evaluating Lithium.  Must be a specific voltage.</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 120-36 <ref>[[CalCars]] conversions are very hands on and from scratch, A crew of 5, 8 hours, 3 days = 120 hours.</ref>
 |-
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 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 10
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 20-30
-|	<!-- AC Input -->	 Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
+|	<!-- AC Input -->	 90 to 300 Vac Vdc
-|	<!-- Chg time -->	 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac <ref name=charge_time/>
+|	<!-- Chg time -->	 0.4-3+ <ref>[[PiPrius]] Charges in about 3 hours @ 120v & 15a or can be charged in as little as 0.4 hours (24 minutes) @ 240v & up to 40amps</ref><ref name=charge_time/>
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 Flame Spill proof
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 ~150
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 no
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $10K +Labor <ref>[[PiPrius]] Batteries: $0.8K~$1.2K Charger/DC-DC: $3K Target: ~$10K</ref>
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View <ref name=pfc_regs/>
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 Hyb DC CV <ref name=pfc_regs/>
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.7
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
-|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[PiPrius]] uses 15 * Hawker EP26 SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid). 24 * 20Ah SLA.  Evaluating various Lithium cells.  Users choice of battery pack chemistry, voltage and capacity.</ref>
+|	<!-- Bat Chem -->	 PbA (Ni, Li) <ref>[[PiPrius]] uses 15 * Hawker EP26 SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid), 24 * 20Ah SLA., Evaluating Lithium, or users choice of chemistry, voltage and capacity.</ref>
 |	<!-- Ins Time -->	 24-8 <ref>[[PiPrius]] an installer familiars with the kit might complete a conversion in 8 hours, less experienced may spend 3 or more days.</ref>
 |-
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 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 30
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 50
-|	<!-- AC Input -->	 120Vac
+|	<!-- AC Input -->	 120 Vac
 |	<!-- Chg time -->	 9.0
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 Flame Spill proof
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 83
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 no
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 40K now
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $40K
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 new pack only,<br>new BMS
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 New
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 9.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 8
@@ Line 174: / Line 180: @@
 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 32?
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->	 60?
-|	<!-- AC Input -->	 120-240 VAC
+|	<!-- AC Input -->	 100 to 240 Vac
 |	<!-- Chg time -->	 9.0
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 via cell sep <ref>[[EDrive]] Through cell separation</ref>
@@ Line 180: / Line 186: @@
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 yes
 |	<!-- Cost     -->	 ?
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 new pack only,<br>new BMS
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 New
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 9.5
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 8.5?
@@ Line 194: / Line 200: @@
 |	<!-- AERange  -->	 15 <ref name=hymotion_range/>
 |	<!-- BMRange  -->
-|	<!-- AC Input -->	 120 / 220 Vac
+|	<!-- AC Input -->	 100 to 240 Vac
 |	<!-- Chg time -->	 5.5 / 4.0
 |	<!-- Safety   -->	 Spill proof
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 72
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 no
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 10K in 100s
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $10K <ref>[[Hymotion]] $10K target price for fleet or 100 vehicles</ref>
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 Hyb
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 5.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
@@ Line 219: / Line 225: @@
 |	<!-- Mass Add -->	 21 / 81
 |	<!-- Spare    -->	 yes
-|	<!-- Cost     -->	 24K / 32K now
+|	<!-- Cost     -->	 $24K / $32K <ref>[[Hybrids-Plus]] $24K for [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-15-pnr.html Prius-15] / $32K for [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-30-pnr.html Prius-30]</ref>
-|	<!-- Topology -->	 new pack only<br>new BMS
+|	<!-- Topology -->	 New
 |	<!-- Energy   -->	 4.5 / 9.0
 |	<!-- Bat DOD  -->	 4 / 8
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