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Current [[PHEV]] conversion and kit options for the [[Toyota Prius]]:
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* [[Prius PHEV]] conversion options and discussion.
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** Ron's Original [[PriusPlus]] was the first DIY project.
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| colspan=7 align=center | '''Comparison table: [[PHEV]] conversion and kit options for the [[Toyota Prius]]:'''
*** [[User:Rgremban|Ron]] is working on inexpensive [[Prius PHEV#Contactor Based|Contactor Based]] documentation.
 
*** [[User:Rjf|Ryan]] is working on similar DC-DC [[Prius PHEV#PFC Based|PFC Based]] documentation.
 
**** [[PriusBlue]] is the testbed for [[PiPrius]] kits expected from Rich Rudman.
 
** [[EDrive]] conversions, in California US & UK.
 
** [[Hymotion]] kits available in Canada & US.
 
** [[GoingGreen]] conversion offered in the UK.
 
** [[Hybrids-Plus]] based in Colorado has begun work on [[SEVA:Li#A123_Systems_-_DeWalt_36v|Li]] based conversions.
 
 
 
'''Comparison table'''
 
  
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|- bgcolor="blue"  
 
|- bgcolor="blue"  
 
| colspan=7 |  
 
| colspan=7 |  
|- bgcolor="#E0F0E0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0F0E0"
 
|<b>Organization:</b>
 
|<b>Organization:</b>
|[http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars]
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|<!-- CalCars  --> [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars]
|[http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita<br>Micro]/<br>[[PriusBlue]]
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita<br>Micro]/<br>[[PriusBlue]]
|[http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]/<br>[http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive<br>Systems]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]/<br>[http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive<br>Systems]
|[http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion]
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|<!-- Hymotion --> [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion]
|[http://www.goingreen.co.uk/ GoingGreen]
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> [http://www.goingreen.co.uk/ GoingGreen]
|[http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus]
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus]
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Location:</b>
 
|<b>Location:</b>
|California
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|<!-- CalCars  --> California
|Washington
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Washington
|California
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|<!-- EDrive  --> California
|Ontario
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Ontario
|UK
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> UK
|Colorado
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Colorado
|- bgcolor="#E0F0E0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0F0E0"
 
|<b>References:</b>
 
|<b>References:</b>
|[[PriusPlus]]
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|<!-- CalCars  --> [[PriusPlus]]
|[[PriusBlue]]
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> [[PriusBlue]]
|[http://energycs.com/ web]<br>[http://edrivesystems.com/ web]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://energycs.com/ web]<br>[http://edrivesystems.com/ web]
|[http://hymotion.com/ web]<br>[http://hymotion.com/pdf/Specs_PHEV_L5.pdf pdf]<br>[[Hymotion]]
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|<!-- Hymotion --> [http://hymotion.com/ web]<br>[http://hymotion.com/pdf/Specs_PHEV_L5.pdf pdf]<br>[[Hymotion]]
|[http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=14245 web]
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> [http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=14245 web]
|[http://hybrids-plus.com/ web]<br>[[Hybrids-Plus]]
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ web]<br>[[Hybrids-Plus]]
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|- bgcolor="blue"
 
|- bgcolor="blue"
 
| colspan=7 |
 
| colspan=7 |
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>Product:</b>
 
|<b>Product:</b>
|
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|[[PiPrius]]
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> [[PiPrius]]
|[[EDrive]]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [[EDrive]]
|[[Hymotion | PHEV-L5]]
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|<!-- Hymotion --> [[Hymotion | PHEV-L5]]
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|[[Hybrids-Plus | Prius-30]]
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> [[Hybrids-Plus | Prius-30]]
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Installed:</b>
 
|<b>Installed:</b>
|No
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|<!-- CalCars  --> No
|No
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> No
|Yes
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Yes
|Yes, fleets
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Yes, fleets
|?
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> ?
|Yes
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Yes
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>DIY kit:</b>
 
|<b>DIY kit:</b>
|Yes
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Yes
|Yes
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Yes
|No
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|<!-- EDrive  --> No
|No
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|<!-- Hymotion --> No
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|Future
+
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Future
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Status:</b>
 
|<b>Status:</b>
|Development
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Development
|Development
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Development
|
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|<!-- EDrive  -->
|Ready
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Ready
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|Development
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Development
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>EV range [mi] (1):</b>
 
|<b>EV range [mi] (1):</b>
|
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 10
|10
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 10
|30
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 30
|15 (6)
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 15 (6)
|30
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> 30
|30
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 30
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>PHEV range [mi] (2):</b>
 
|<b>PHEV range [mi] (2):</b>
|
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 20-30
|50
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 50
|
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|<!-- Hymotion -->
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|
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|<!-- Hybrids+ -->
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>AC power:</b>
 
|<b>AC power:</b>
|
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|  
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 120 / 220 Vac<br>(90-300vac/vdc)
|120 Vac
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 120Vac
|120 / 220 Vac
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 120 / 220 Vac
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|120 Vac
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 120 Vac
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Charge time<br>[hours] (4):</b>
 
|<b>Charge time<br>[hours] (4):</b>
|  
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|  
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 3.0 / 0.5
|9
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
|5.5 / 4
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|9
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>Safety (3):</b>
 
|<b>Safety (3):</b>
|Flame-proof
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Flame-proof
|Flame-proof
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Flame-proof
|Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
|Spill proof
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Spill proof
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Additional<br>weight [kg]:</b>
 
|<b>Additional<br>weight [kg]:</b>
|90~130
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 90~130
|~150
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> ~150
|83
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 83
|72
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 72
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|~60
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> ~60
|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
 
|<b>Tire access (7):</b>
 
|<b>Tire access (7):</b>
|no
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|<!-- CalCars  --> no
|no
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> no
|yes
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|<!-- EDrive  --> yes
|no
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|<!-- Hymotion --> no
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|yes
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> yes
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Cost [US$]:</b>
 
|<b>Cost [US$]:</b>
|  
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|Batts: ~1.2K<br>PFC30: ~1.8K<br>charger: ?
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>PFC40h: ~1.8K<br>charger: ^PFC40h^
|10K~12K
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 10K~12K
|9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s
|22K now<br>13K late '06
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> 22K now<br>13K late '06
|32K now<br>15K mid '07
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 32K now<br>15K mid '07
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|- bgcolor="blue"
 
|- bgcolor="blue"
 
| colspan=7 |
 
| colspan=7 |
|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0"
 
|<b>Topology:</b>
 
|<b>Topology:</b>
|Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS<br>''prev:Stock or new pack<br> new BMS''
|Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS
|Just new pack,<br>new BMS
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|<!-- EDrive  --> new pack only,<br>new BMS
|Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
|Stock pack<br>+ new pack
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack
|Just new pack<br>new BMS
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> new pack only<br>new BMS
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Pack energy [KWh]:</b>
 
|<b>Pack energy [KWh]:</b>
|
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|4.7
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4.7
|9
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
|5
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.0
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|9
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0
|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0"
 
|<b>Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):</b>
 
|<b>Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):</b>
|?<br>+ 0.3 stock
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|<!-- CalCars  --> ?<br>+ 0.3 stock
|2.3<br>+ 0.3 stock
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 2.3<br>+ 0.3 stock
|8
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 8
|4<br>+ 0.3 stock
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|<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|8
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 8
|- ***************
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|-
 
|<b>Battery<br>type:</b>
 
|<b>Battery<br>type:</b>
|SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
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|<!-- CalCars  --> SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
|15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice
|[http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
|Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon)
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon)
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|1250 ea<br>26650-size<br>A123-brand<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/products/ANR26650M1specs.pdf pdf]
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 1250 ea<br>26650-size<br>A123-brand<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/products/ANR26650M1specs.pdf pdf]
|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0" ***************
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|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0"
 
|<b>Instal. time:</b>
 
|<b>Instal. time:</b>
|  
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|<!-- CalCars  -->
|  
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|<!-- PiPrius  -->
|future:<br>< 1day
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|<!-- EDrive  --> future:<br>< 1day
|
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|<!-- Hymotion --> < 1 day
|
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|<!-- GoingGrn -->
|future:<br>1 day
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> future:<br>1 day
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|- bgcolor="blue"
 
|- bgcolor="blue"
 
| colspan=7 |
 
| colspan=7 |
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# During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization. If not stated, then calculated assuming...
 
# During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization. If not stated, then calculated assuming...
 
# Safety in case of major accident
 
# Safety in case of major accident
##Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof.
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## Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof.
##SLA batteries contain sulphuric acid
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## SLA batteries contain sulphuric acid
 
# From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
 
# From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
 
# Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
 
# Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
##SLA: 0% down to 50%,  
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## SLA: 0% down to 50%,  
##Litium 0% down to 90%
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## Litium 0% down to 90%
 
# HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
 
# HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
 
# No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack
 
# No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack

Revision as of 08:51, 10 July 2006

Comparison table: PHEV conversion and kit options for the Toyota Prius:
Organization: CalCars Manzanita
Micro
/
PriusBlue
EnergyCS/
EDrive
Systems
Hymotion GoingGreen Hybrids-Plus
Location: California Washington California Ontario UK Colorado
References: PriusPlus PriusBlue web
web
web
pdf
Hymotion
web web
Hybrids-Plus
Product: PiPrius EDrive PHEV-L5 Prius-30
Installed: No No Yes Yes, fleets ? Yes
DIY kit: Yes Yes No No Future
Status: Development Development Ready Development
EV range [mi] (1): 10 10 30 15 (6) 30 30
PHEV range [mi] (2): 20-30 50
AC power: 120 / 220 Vac
(90-300vac/vdc)
120Vac 120 / 220 Vac 120 Vac
Charge time
[hours] (4):
3.0 / 0.5 9.0 5.5 / 4.0 9.0
Safety (3): Flame-proof Flame-proof Flame-proof
Spill proof
Spill proof Flame-proof
Spill proof
Additional
weight [kg]:
90~130 ~150 83 72 ~60
Tire access (7): no no yes no yes
Cost [US$]: Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+
PFC40h: ~1.8K
charger: ^PFC40h^
10K~12K 9.5K in 100s
6.5K in 1000s
22K now
13K late '06
32K now
15K mid '07
Topology: Stock pack
+ new pack
w/contactor,
stock BMS
prev:Stock or new pack
new BMS
Stock pack
+ new pack
w/DC-DC,
stock BMS
new pack only,
new BMS
Stock pack
+ new pack,
stock BMS
Stock pack
+ new pack
new pack only
new BMS
Pack energy [KWh]: 4.7 9.0 5.0 9.0
Available energy
[KWh] (5):
?
+ 0.3 stock
2.3
+ 0.3 stock
8 4
+ 0.3 stock
8
Battery
type:
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid)
15 ea
Hawker EP26
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid)
or pack of choice
Valence
Saphion
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells
extracted from
U-Charge
packs
Lithium
polymer
(future:
A123 LiIon)
1250 ea
26650-size
A123-brand
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells
pdf
Instal. time: future:
< 1day
< 1 day future:
1 day

Notes:

  1. Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile ref, 1.5 miles with stock pack
  2. During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization. If not stated, then calculated assuming...
  3. Safety in case of major accident
    1. Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as Valence and A123) are flame-proof.
    2. SLA batteries contain sulphuric acid
  4. From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
  5. Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
    1. SLA: 0% down to 50%,
    2. Litium 0% down to 90%
  6. HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
  7. No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack