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|'''Product:'''
 
|'''Product:'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> [[PriusPlus]]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> [[PiPrius]]
 
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|'''Status:'''
 
|'''Status:'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> Development
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Ready<br>Docs in progress
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Development
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Development
 
|<!-- EDrive  -->  
 
|<!-- EDrive  -->  
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|'''No done so far:'''
 
|'''No done so far:'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> 2
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 1st ever: 11/04<br>4 by 11/06<br>(1 chgd to PiPrius)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 2
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 2
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 7
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 7
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|-  
 
|-  
 
|'''EV range [mi] (1):'''
 
|'''EV range [mi] (1):'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> 10
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 10-12
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 10
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 10
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 30
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 30
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|'''PHEV range [mi] (2):'''
 
|'''PHEV range [mi] (2):'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 20+
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 20-30
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 20-30
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 50
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 50
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|-  
 
|'''AC power:'''
 
|'''AC power:'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 120-240 VAC
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 120Vac
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 120Vac
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|'''Charge time<br>[hours] (4):'''
 
|'''Charge time<br>[hours] (4):'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 3 to 80%<br>11 to 100% (4)
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac (4)
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0
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|-
 
|-
 
|'''Safety (3):'''
 
|'''Safety (3):'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> Flame-proof
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Flame-proof
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
|<!-- EDrive  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
|<!-- Hymotion --> Spill proof
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Spill-proof
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
  
 
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|'''Additional<br>weight [kg]:'''
 
|'''Additional<br>weight [kg]:'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> 90~130
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 130+
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> ~150
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> ~150
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 83
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 83
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|'''Cost [US$]:'''
 
|'''Cost [US$]:'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Batts: ~1K<br>Chgr: 0.9-2K<br>Sum: 4-7K+labor
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 22K now<br>10K~13K late '06
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 22K now<br>10K~13K late '06
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|'''Topology:'''
 
|'''Topology:'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS<br>''prev:Stock or new pack<br> new BMS''
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS<br>(8)
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|<!-- PiPrius  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View (8)
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> new pack only,<br>new BMS
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> new pack only,<br>new BMS
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
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|-
 
|-
 
|'''Pack energy [KWh]:'''
 
|'''Pack energy [KWh]:'''
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 4.8
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4.7
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4.7
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
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|'''Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):'''
 
|'''Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> ?<br>+ 0.3 stock
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 8
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> 8
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|-
 
|-
 
|'''Battery<br>type:'''
 
|'''Battery<br>type:'''
|<!-- CalCars  --> SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 20 ea<br>BB Battery EVP20-12B<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
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|'''Instal. time:'''
 
|'''Instal. time:'''
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|<!-- CalCars  --> currently<br>>2 weeks
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> future:<br>< 1day
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> future:<br>< 1day
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Notes:
 
Notes:
# Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile [http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/solarpoweraugme.html ref], 1.5 miles with stock pack
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# Assuming <35 mph, 210 Wh/mile (260 Wh/mi from grid) [http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/solarpoweraugme.html ref], 1.5 miles with stock pack
 
# During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization.
 
# During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization.
 
# Safety in case of major accident
 
# Safety in case of major accident
 
## Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof.
 
## Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as [http://www.valence.com/ Valence] and [http://www.a123systems.com A123]) are flame-proof.
## SLA batteries contain sulphuric acid
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## SLA batteries contain lead and sulphuric acid but are spill-proof
# From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
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# From discharged to the point the pack will no longer be used in PHEV, to fully charged (per Orbital, SLA require 8 hr taper -- done at least once every 3 days -- after near full charge, to reach 100% and prevent sulfation)
 
# Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
 
# Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
 
## SLA: 0% down to 50%,  
 
## SLA: 0% down to 50%,  

Revision as of 10:07, 10 January 2007

Comparison table: PHEV conversion and kit options for the Toyota Prius:
Organization: external websites CalCars Electroenergy Manzanita Micro/
PiPrius/
Advanced Vehicle Initiative
EnergyCS/
EDrive
Systems

GoingGreen
Amberjac
Hymotion Hybrids-Plus
Location: California Washington California / UK Ontario Colorado
References: local articles PriusPlus/History,
Maker Faire,
EEEI Prius
PiPrius,
PriusBlue,
WhiteBird,
GrayPerl
EDrive
GoingGreen /Amberjac:UK
Hymotion Hybrids-Plus
Product: PriusPlus PiPrius EDrive PHEV-L5 Prius-15 / Prius-30
Conv. service: (9) No No Yes Yes, fleets Yes
Conversion kit: (9) Yes Yes No No Future
Status: Ready
Docs in progress
Development Ready Development
No done so far: 1st ever: 11/04
4 by 11/06
(1 chgd to PiPrius)
2 7 18 1
EV range [mi] (1): 10-12 10 30 15 (6) 15 / 30
PHEV range [mi] (2): 20+ 20-30 50 25 / 50
AC power: 120-240 VAC Universal:
90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
120Vac 120 / 220 Vac 120 Vac
Charge time
[hours] (4):
3 to 80%
11 to 100% (4)
3.0 @ 120 Vac/
0.3 @ 240 Vac (4)
9.0 5.5 / 4.0 5.5 / 9.0
Safety (3): Flame-proof
Spill-proof
Flame-proof
Spill-proof
Flame-proof
Spill-proof
Spill-proof Flame-proof
Spill-proof
Additional
weight [kg]:
130+ ~150 83 72 21 / 81
Tire access (7): no no no no yes
Cost [US$]: Batts: ~1K
Chgr: 0.9-2K
Sum: 4-7K+labor
Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+
Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K
Target: ~ 10K
22K now
10K~13K late '06
12.5K+install
9.5K in 100s
6.5K in 1000s
24K / 32K now
13K / 19 K mid '07
Topology: Stock pack
+ new pack
w/contactor,
stock BMS,
CAN-View
Stock pack
+ new pack
w/DC-DC,
stock BMS,
CAN-View (8)
new pack only,
new BMS
Stock pack
+ new pack,
stock BMS
new pack only
new BMS
Pack energy [KWh]: 4.8 4.7 9.0 5.0 4.5 / 9.0
Available energy
[KWh] (5):
2.4-3.8
+ 0.3 stock
4
+ 0.3 stock
8 4
+ 0.3 stock
4 / 8
Battery
type:
20 ea
BB Battery EVP20-12B
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid)
15 ea
Hawker EP26
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid)
or pack of choice
Valence
Saphion
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells
extracted from
U-Charge
packs
Lithium
polymer
(future:
A123 LiIon)
600 / 1200 ea
26650-size
A123-brand
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells

pdf
Instal. time: currently
>2 weeks
future:
< 1day
< 1 day 4 hrs / 1 day
Notes:

Notes:

  1. Assuming <35 mph, 210 Wh/mile (260 Wh/mi from grid) ref, 1.5 miles with stock pack
  2. During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization.
  3. Safety in case of major accident
    1. Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as Valence and A123) are flame-proof.
    2. SLA batteries contain lead and sulphuric acid but are spill-proof
  4. From discharged to the point the pack will no longer be used in PHEV, to fully charged (per Orbital, SLA require 8 hr taper -- done at least once every 3 days -- after near full charge, to reach 100% and prevent sulfation)
  5. Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
    1. SLA: 0% down to 50%,
    2. Litium 0% down to 90%
  6. HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
  7. No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack
  8. PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.
    BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.
    The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source).
  9. Conversion service: done by the PHEV conversion company, at their location.
    Conversion kit: done by the owners in their hometown.