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Rich Rudman of [[Manzanita Micro]], [[User:Rjf|Ryan]], and [[PriusBlue]], are working on a [[Prius PHEV]] implementation using a [[MM-PFC|PFC40H]], an upgraded PFC30, as a DC-DC converter and charger.
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'''"GrayPerl"''' is the name of the Todd Dore, of the [http://www.fveaa.org Fox Valley EAA chapter], Prius was converted in mid Nov 2006 with the third [[PiPrius]] kit.
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[[Mk 3 Reg]]s are also used to keep the pack healthy and determine when to stop discharging the new pack.
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Todd has a PV system and a new Sunny boy grid tie inverter which will now help provide some of his transportation fuel needs.
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You can find out more about the [[PiPrius conversion process]] with these instructions.
 
  
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==Data==
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{{Prius PHEV Options Summary}}
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Here is some data that Todd has collected...
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* [[Image:GrayPearl_Mileage_Log.zip]] spreadsheets.
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{| width=500
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| valign=top | [[Image:GrayPearl-MPG Date.jpg|thumb|[[GrayPearl]] MPG by Date]]
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| valign=top | [[Image:GrayPearl-MPG Temp.jpg|thumb|[[GrayPearl]] MPG by Temp]]
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|}
  
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'''Converted Vehicles:'''
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==Photos==
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# 2006 May - [[PriusBlue]] was/is the original testbed for these kits.
 
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# 2006 Oct - [[WhiteBird]] for Chelan County’s Advanced Vehicle Initiatives.
 
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# 2006 Nov - [[GrayPearl]]  for Todd Dore's of the Fox Vally EAA.
 
  
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Some old pages that need to be cleaned up...
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===Day 1===
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* [[Prius PHEV#PFC Based]]
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<gallery>
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** [[Prius PHEV Battery Options#PFC Based]]
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Image:Day_1_Image_1.jpg|batteries arrive in box on the pallet,  Notice the order of the batteries – they must be installed in the same pattern.
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** [[State Of Charge Manipulation#PFC Based]]
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Image:Day_1_Image_2.jpg|side view of battery box in pallet.
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** [[Prius PHEV Schematics#PFC Based]]
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Image:Day_1_Image_3.jpg|genesis XE30 sealed lead-acid batteries from Enersys. Provided by Dick Brown, who is a distributor.  These are 12V batteries rated at 28 amp-hours at 10C.
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Image:Day_1_Image_4.jpg|angle view of batteries in the box.
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Image:Day_1_Image_5.jpg|start to dis-assemble the false floor in the back of the Prius.
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Image:Day_1_Image_6.jpg|Rob Glowacki continuing the dis-assembly.
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Image:Day_1_Image_7.jpg|The Prius HV battery box.  We must have turned off the flash on this one!
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Image:Day_1_Image_8.jpg|flash back on – lining up the battery box in the well at the back of the Prius.  Rich Rudman engineered the box to fit snuggly in the factory-made well.  The spare tire must be removed first.
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Image:Day_1_Image_9.jpg|flash off again – Rob and John Emde discussing the weather.
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Image:Day_1_Image_10.jpg|the front left corner of the back of the Prius.  The studs hold the keyless entry device, and must be sheared off to fit the battery box in.
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Image:Day_1_Image_11.jpg|John shearing the studs off.  Watch those sparks!
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Image:Day_1_Image_12.jpg|John cutting away part of the battery box flange to fit around a bolt on the floor of the Prius.
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Image:Day_1_Image_13.jpg|Sizing up the battery box with the flange that John just cut.
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Image:Day_1_Image_14.jpg|The back right side of the battery box with the flange – that’s where a bolt hole will have to go.  Note the black plastic box that we are looking down on – this is next to the 12V battery in the Prius and drives anti-lock brakes or the air bags (not sure which).  Flash on with this photo!
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Image:Day_1_Image_15.jpg|Filing away the sharp edges for the portions cut out of the flange for the battery box.  Everything must be as flush as possible with the floor of the Prius. Note the box fits over the empty well for the spare tire. There is room for the spare tire, but you have to remove the battery box to get to it! (so take out the spare).
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Image:Day_1_Image_16.jpg|The left section of the cover for the Prius HV battery.  Studs have been sheared off for the PHEV kit battery box.
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Image:Day_1_Image_17.jpg|The Prius is hoisted up and we’re looking at the area that we have to drill a bolt hole.
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Image:Day_1_Image_18.jpg|John smiling underneath the car.  The muffler and the heat shield are visible.  The muffler has to be pushed aside and the heat shield taken off to drill the bolt holes on the right side (everything is put back in place afterwards).  Can’t see John’s entire face!
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Image:Day_1_Image_19.jpg|The center hole is where the bolt hole is drilled for the back left of the box (driver’s side).
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Image:Day_1_Image_20.jpg|Drilling the hole for the box.
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</gallery>
  
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Misc development related stuff:
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===Day 3===
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* Good Electrical-Boxes at [http://www.canev.com/KitsComp/Components/Electrical-Boxes.html www.canev.com]
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<gallery>
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Image:Day_3_Image_1.jpg|bolting the battery box by the muffler.
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Image:Day_3_Image_2.jpg|The heat shield removed and the battery bolt holes exposed.
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Image:Day_3_Image_3.jpg|The heat shield installed.  Notice the battery box bolt.
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Image:Day_3_Image_4.jpg|The [[CAN-View]] installed.  It is a very simple installation process (more images to follow).  Main read out screen and change of PHEV controls are all done on the Prius display screen.
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Image:Day_3_Image_5.jpg|Rich Rudman doesn’t want to be bothered!  [[CAN-View]] installation.
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Image:Day_3_Image_6.jpg|Removing the protective cover of the Prius HV battery box.  Underneath are the main contactors.
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Image:Day_3_Image_7.jpg|The orange cables are the most positive and most negative of the Prius HV system.
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Image:Day_3_Image_8.jpg|The Rudman kit – cables come off of the HV battery.  A couple of installation points inside.
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Image:Day_3_Image_9.jpg|John working on the sharp edges of the HV cover.
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Image:Day_3_Image_10.jpg|Inside the PHEV HV box where the main contactors are and cables. The black-coated cables represent our installation.
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Image:Day_3_Image_11.jpg|tapping into the NAV system 12V wire to install the [[CAN-View]].
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</gallery>
  
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Some EVDL threads
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===Day 4===
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* 2006.08.17 - [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/72339 Grants,  Re: Plug in Hybrid retro fits for Prius, Escape wanted for NY state fleet.]
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* 2006.05.31 - [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/66842 PiPrius ...]
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Image:Day_4_Image_1.jpg|[[CAN-View]].
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Image:Day_4_Image_2.jpg|Rich standing by his [[MM-PFC|charger]].  The charger is bolted into a cavity on the driver’s side.  It also acts as a DC-DC converter for the PHEV system.
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Image:Day_4_Image_3.jpg|The [[CAN-View]] is on top of the NAV and underneath the driver’s seat.
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Image:Day_4_Image_4.JPG|The battery box, [[MM-PFC|charger]], and relay box (with contactors) are shown here. All are part of the kit.
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Image:Day_4_Image_5.JPG|The batteries have now been installed!
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Image:Day_4_Image_6.JPG|The inside of the relay box.  Notice the contactors.  This controls the [[MM-PFC|AC charging and the DC-DC function]]. It also has a safety so the DC-DC switches off when the car is charging or inactive completely.
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Image:Day_4_Image_7.JPG|Another view of the [[MM-PFC|charger]] when it’s on.
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Image:Day_4_Image_8.JPG|Rich is testing the voltage of the batteries.
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Image:Day_4_Image_9.JPG|The job is done!  Everyone smiling in front of the completed car on Saturday. Everybody there helped out that day.
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</gallery>
  
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==Logs==
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===Day 5===
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[[Image:capture0040-41.png|thumb|right|[[:Image:Capture004.zip|Cap0040-41]], 11 miles >99.9mpg]]
 
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[[Image:capture0060.png|thumb|right|[[:Image:Capture006.zip|Cap0060]], 28 miles 78.5mpg]]
 
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[[Image:capture0120.png|thumb|right|[[:Image:Capture012.zip|Cap0120]], 22 miles 58mpg]]
 
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Current [[CAN-View]] Relay settings:
 
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: RL2: on <69 off >70%SOC & on >70 off <70Acl
 
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: RL3: on <74 off >74%SOC & on >50 off <45mph
 
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: RL4: OEM/PHEV selected & >40Acl & Bat <111degF
 
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: RL5: ''unused''
 
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: RL6: on <74 off >74%SOC & on >50 off <45mph ''Moving to RL3''
 
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:: RL2 ''(Low)'' and RL6 ''(High)'' speed SOC driven relays are connected in parallel to trigger the PFC to enter NiMH High Voltage setpoint (239V), otherwise PFC is in NiMH Low Voltage setpoint (227v).
 
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[[CAN-View]] Logs from Initial PHEV Test & Tune runs:
 
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* 2006.05.27 - [[:Image:Capture001.zip]] - 2 short PHEV tests, no relays used, CCL issues, 1 charge.
 
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* 2006.05.29 - [[:Image:Capture002.zip]] - 4 PHEV tests, SOC relay trigger, 30.2 miles, 3 charges.
 
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* 2006.07.15 - [[:Image:Capture003.zip]] - Trip to Manzanita HEV/PHEV mixed-mode
 
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Added LowBatReg, a single MarkIII regulator which communicates with PFC to lower current levels in order to keep ''known'' lowest PbA battery above 10.0v.  Eventually all batteries will have such regulators protecting each from over and under voltage events.  Regs will also enhance the ability to equalize the pack and charge safely without manual monitoring.
 
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* 2006.07.16 - [[:Image:Capture004.zip]] - 3 short mostly EV-Only trips & a P3000 DTC.
 
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Restored OEM cooling system to original state, finished testing degraded OEM cooling.
 
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* 2006.07.17 - [[:Image:Capture005.zip]] - Ryans commute, and repeat of Cap004.
 
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* 2006.07.18 - [[:Image:Capture006.zip]] - Ryans commute, much improved performance on return trip.
 
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* 2006.07.19 - [[:Image:Capture007.zip]] - Ryans commute.
 
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* 2006.07.20 - [[:Image:Capture008.zip]] - Ryans commute.
 
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* 2006.07.23 - [[:Image:Capture009.zip]] - Four consecutive tanks during a road trip.
 
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* 2006.09.16 - [[:Image:Capture010.zip]] - Pair of Mixed mode trips.
 
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* 2006.09.17 - [[:Image:Capture011.zip]] - Short low speed trip.
 
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* 2006.10.02 - [[:Image:Capture012.zip]] - Trip with new relay box, colder weather.
 
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* 2006.11.22 - [[:Image:Capture013.zip]] - Trip from work to apt, need to up NiMH-HighV setpoint to ~240v.
 
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* 2006.11.26 - [[:Image:Capture014.zip]] - Testing with current through OEM HAL sensor, got DTC's @ .95 miles.
 
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* See also [[PriusBlue Mileage]] & [[Image:MyMileage.zip]] spreadsheets for more trip data and details.
 
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''Each .zip file contains a main description .txt file similar to the comments which describe it.  There are also multiple CAN-View Capture "raw" .txt files and their resultant .csv files.  Each capture file is described with dash miles-mpg|CAN-View Trip screen miles-mpg|CAN-View Ah Count down from 10Ah, a description of the trip, and the amount of recharge.''
 
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==Photos==
 
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More photos at:
 
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* [[WhiteBird#Photos]]
 
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* [[GrayPerl#Photos]]
 
 
<gallery>
 
<gallery>
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Image:100 1332.JPG|Battery Layout for [[PiPrius]]
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Image:Day_5_Image_1.jpg|The kit installed with carpeting put back in.  Lots of cables and wires to be hidden yet!
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Image:100 1335.JPG|Reverting previous battery tap & HV modifications
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Image:Day_5_Image_2.jpg|testing some of the regs – the readout of the computer program. Only 6 are in the kit now and they all don’t quite work. Must make sure not to drain the batteries too much until all the regs arrive, are installed, and properly set. The computer program sets the reg specifications. Flash on!
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Image:100 1378.JPG|PFC-30(40A) mounted in drivers corner.
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Image:Day_5_Image_3.jpg|The computer and the PC to test the regs.
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Image:100 1377.JPG|[[CAN-View]] v2 with new relay board wired,
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Image:Day_5_Image_4.jpg|The reg rails on top of the battery box and 4 regs installed.
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Image:100 1379.JPG|Other end of CAN-View relays # 2-6
 
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Image:100 1381.JPG|Other end of CAN-View relays # 2-6 (closeup)
 
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Image:100 1438.JPG|Dry fitting new battery box
 
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Image:100 1439.JPG|New battery boxand [[MM-PFC]]
 
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Image:100 1440.JPG|Will hold 15 Hawker EP26 or Areo AB26's
 
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Image:100 1441.JPG|1 or 3 rails shown which will house battery regs.
 
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Image:100 1442.JPG|OEM HV tie-in.
 
 
</gallery>
 
</gallery>
  
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==Conversion Procedures==
 
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See: [[PiPrius conversion process]]
 
  
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==References==
 
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<references/>
 
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[[Category:PiPrius]]
 
 
[[Category:PHEV]]
 
[[Category:PHEV]]
 
[[Category:Prius]]
 
[[Category:Prius]]
 
[[Category:Prius PHEV]]
 
[[Category:Prius PHEV]]
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[[Category:Escape]]
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[[Category:PiPrius]]
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[[Category:Escape PHEV]]
 

Revision as of 00:51, 2 March 2007

"GrayPerl" is the name of the Todd Dore, of the Fox Valley EAA chapter, Prius was converted in mid Nov 2006 with the third PiPrius kit. Todd has a PV system and a new Sunny boy grid tie inverter which will now help provide some of his transportation fuel needs.

Data

Here is some data that Todd has collected...

GrayPearl MPG by Date
GrayPearl MPG by Temp

Photos

Day 1

  • batteries arrive in box on the pallet, Notice the order of the batteries – they must be installed in the same pattern.

  • side view of battery box in pallet.

  • genesis XE30 sealed lead-acid batteries from Enersys. Provided by Dick Brown, who is a distributor. These are 12V batteries rated at 28 amp-hours at 10C.

  • angle view of batteries in the box.

  • start to dis-assemble the false floor in the back of the Prius.

  • Rob Glowacki continuing the dis-assembly.

  • The Prius HV battery box. We must have turned off the flash on this one!

  • flash back on – lining up the battery box in the well at the back of the Prius. Rich Rudman engineered the box to fit snuggly in the factory-made well. The spare tire must be removed first.

  • flash off again – Rob and John Emde discussing the weather.

  • the front left corner of the back of the Prius. The studs hold the keyless entry device, and must be sheared off to fit the battery box in.

  • John shearing the studs off. Watch those sparks!

  • John cutting away part of the battery box flange to fit around a bolt on the floor of the Prius.

  • Sizing up the battery box with the flange that John just cut.

  • The back right side of the battery box with the flange – that’s where a bolt hole will have to go. Note the black plastic box that we are looking down on – this is next to the 12V battery in the Prius and drives anti-lock brakes or the air bags (not sure which). Flash on with this photo!

  • Filing away the sharp edges for the portions cut out of the flange for the battery box. Everything must be as flush as possible with the floor of the Prius. Note the box fits over the empty well for the spare tire. There is room for the spare tire, but you have to remove the battery box to get to it! (so take out the spare).

  • The left section of the cover for the Prius HV battery. Studs have been sheared off for the PHEV kit battery box.

  • The Prius is hoisted up and we’re looking at the area that we have to drill a bolt hole.

  • John smiling underneath the car. The muffler and the heat shield are visible. The muffler has to be pushed aside and the heat shield taken off to drill the bolt holes on the right side (everything is put back in place afterwards). Can’t see John’s entire face!

  • The center hole is where the bolt hole is drilled for the back left of the box (driver’s side).

  • Drilling the hole for the box.

Day 3

  • bolting the battery box by the muffler.

  • The heat shield removed and the battery bolt holes exposed.

  • The heat shield installed. Notice the battery box bolt.

  • The CAN-View installed. It is a very simple installation process (more images to follow). Main read out screen and change of PHEV controls are all done on the Prius display screen.

  • Rich Rudman doesn’t want to be bothered! CAN-View installation.

  • Removing the protective cover of the Prius HV battery box. Underneath are the main contactors.

  • The orange cables are the most positive and most negative of the Prius HV system.

  • The Rudman kit – cables come off of the HV battery. A couple of installation points inside.

  • John working on the sharp edges of the HV cover.

  • Inside the PHEV HV box where the main contactors are and cables. The black-coated cables represent our installation.

  • tapping into the NAV system 12V wire to install the CAN-View.

Day 4

  • Rich standing by his charger. The charger is bolted into a cavity on the driver’s side. It also acts as a DC-DC converter for the PHEV system.

  • The CAN-View is on top of the NAV and underneath the driver’s seat.

  • The battery box, charger, and relay box (with contactors) are shown here. All are part of the kit.

  • The batteries have now been installed!

  • The inside of the relay box. Notice the contactors. This controls the AC charging and the DC-DC function. It also has a safety so the DC-DC switches off when the car is charging or inactive completely.

  • Another view of the charger when it’s on.

  • Rich is testing the voltage of the batteries.

  • The job is done! Everyone smiling in front of the completed car on Saturday. Everybody there helped out that day.

Day 5

  • Day 5 Image 1.jpg

    The kit installed with carpeting put back in. Lots of cables and wires to be hidden yet!

  • Day 5 Image 2.jpg

    testing some of the regs – the readout of the computer program. Only 6 are in the kit now and they all don’t quite work. Must make sure not to drain the batteries too much until all the regs arrive, are installed, and properly set. The computer program sets the reg specifications. Flash on!

  • Day 5 Image 3.jpg

    The computer and the PC to test the regs.

  • Day 5 Image 4.jpg

    The reg rails on top of the battery box and 4 regs installed.

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