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+ | |<b>No done so far:</b> | ||
+ | |<!-- CalCars --> 1 | ||
+ | |<!-- PiPrius --> 2 | ||
+ | |<!-- EDrive --> | ||
+ | |<!-- Hymotion --> | ||
+ | |<!-- GoingGrn --> | ||
+ | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 0 | ||
+ | |||
+ | |- | ||
|<b>EV range [mi] (1):</b> | |<b>EV range [mi] (1):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> 10 | |<!-- CalCars --> 10 | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 30 | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 30 | ||
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|<b>PHEV range [mi] (2):</b> | |<b>PHEV range [mi] (2):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> | |<!-- CalCars --> | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> | ||
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|<b>AC power:</b> | |<b>AC power:</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> | |<!-- CalCars --> | ||
− | |<!-- PiPrius --> | + | |<!-- PiPrius --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc |
|<!-- EDrive --> 120Vac | |<!-- EDrive --> 120Vac | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> 120 / 220 Vac | |<!-- Hymotion --> 120 / 220 Vac | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 120 Vac | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 120 Vac | ||
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|<b>Charge time<br>[hours] (4):</b> | |<b>Charge time<br>[hours] (4):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> | |<!-- CalCars --> | ||
− | |<!-- PiPrius --> 3.0 / 0. | + | |<!-- PiPrius --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac |
|<!-- EDrive --> 9.0 | |<!-- EDrive --> 9.0 | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0 | |<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0 | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0 | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> 9.0 | ||
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|<b>Safety (3):</b> | |<b>Safety (3):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> Flame-proof | |<!-- CalCars --> Flame-proof | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill proof | ||
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|<b>Additional<br>weight [kg]:</b> | |<b>Additional<br>weight [kg]:</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> 90~130 | |<!-- CalCars --> 90~130 | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> ~60 | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> ~60 | ||
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|<b>Tire access (7):</b> | |<b>Tire access (7):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> no | |<!-- CalCars --> no | ||
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> yes | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> yes | ||
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|<b>Cost [US$]:</b> | |<b>Cost [US$]:</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> | |<!-- CalCars --> | ||
− | |<!-- PiPrius --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br> | + | |<!-- PiPrius --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K |
|<!-- EDrive --> 10K~12K | |<!-- EDrive --> 10K~12K | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> 9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s | |<!-- Hymotion --> 9.5K in 100s<br>6.5K in 1000s | ||
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|<b>Topology:</b> | |<b>Topology:</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS<br>''prev:Stock or new pack<br> new BMS'' | |<!-- CalCars --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS<br>''prev:Stock or new pack<br> new BMS'' | ||
− | |<!-- PiPrius --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS | + | |<!-- PiPrius --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS<br>(8) |
|<!-- EDrive --> new pack only,<br>new BMS | |<!-- EDrive --> new pack only,<br>new BMS | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS | |<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS | ||
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|<b>Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):</b> | |<b>Available energy<br>[KWh] (5):</b> | ||
|<!-- CalCars --> ?<br>+ 0.3 stock | |<!-- CalCars --> ?<br>+ 0.3 stock | ||
− | |<!-- PiPrius --> | + | |<!-- PiPrius --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock |
|<!-- EDrive --> 8 | |<!-- EDrive --> 8 | ||
|<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock | |<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock | ||
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|<!-- GoingGrn --> | |<!-- GoingGrn --> | ||
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> future:<br>1 day | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> future:<br>1 day | ||
+ | |||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |<b>Notes:</b> | ||
+ | |<!-- CalCars --> | ||
+ | |<!-- PiPrius --> | ||
+ | |<!-- EDrive --> | ||
+ | |<!-- Hymotion --> | ||
+ | |<!-- GoingGrn --> | ||
+ | |<!-- Hybrids+ --> | ||
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# HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles. | # HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles. | ||
# No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack | # No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack | ||
+ | # PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.<br>BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.<br>The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source). |
Revision as of 19:20, 11 July 2006
Comparison table: PHEV conversion and kit options for the Toyota Prius: | ||||||
Organization: | CalCars | Manzanita Micro/ PriusBlue |
EnergyCS/ EDrive Systems |
Hymotion | GoingGreen | Hybrids-Plus |
Location: | California | Washington | California | Ontario | UK | Colorado |
References: | PriusPlus | PriusBlue | web web |
web Hymotion |
web | web Hybrids-Plus |
Product: | PiPrius | EDrive | PHEV-L5 | Prius-30 | ||
Installed: | No | No | Yes | Yes, fleets | ? | Yes |
DIY kit: | Yes | Yes | No | No | Future | |
Status: | Development | Development | Ready | Development | ||
No done so far: | 1 | 2 | 0 | |||
EV range [mi] (1): | 10 | 10 | 30 | 15 (6) | 30 | 30 |
PHEV range [mi] (2): | 20-30 | 50 | ||||
AC power: | Universal: 90 to 300 Vac/Vdc |
120Vac | 120 / 220 Vac | 120 Vac | ||
Charge time [hours] (4): |
3.0 @ 120 Vac/ 0.3 @ 240 Vac |
9.0 | 5.5 / 4.0 | 9.0 | ||
Safety (3): | Flame-proof | Flame-proof | Flame-proof Spill proof |
Spill proof | Flame-proof Spill proof | |
Additional weight [kg]: |
90~130 | ~150 | 83 | 72 | ~60 | |
Tire access (7): | no | no | yes | no | yes | |
Cost [US$]: | Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+ Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K Target: ~ 10K |
10K~12K | 9.5K in 100s 6.5K in 1000s |
22K now 13K late '06 |
32K now 15K mid '07 | |
Topology: | Stock pack + new pack w/contactor, stock BMS prev:Stock or new pack new BMS |
Stock pack + new pack w/DC-DC, stock BMS (8) |
new pack only, new BMS |
Stock pack + new pack, stock BMS |
Stock pack + new pack |
new pack only new BMS |
Pack energy [KWh]: | 4.7 | 9.0 | 5.0 | 9.0 | ||
Available energy [KWh] (5): |
? + 0.3 stock |
4 + 0.3 stock |
8 | 4 + 0.3 stock |
8 | |
Battery type: |
SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid) |
15 ea Hawker EP26 SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid) or pack of choice |
Valence Saphion phosphate cathode LiIon cells extracted from U-Charge packs |
Lithium polymer (future: A123 LiIon) |
1250 ea 26650-size A123-brand phosphate cathode LiIon cells | |
Instal. time: | future: < 1day |
< 1 day | future: 1 day | |||
Notes: | ||||||
Notes:
- Assuming <35 mph, 0.26 KWh/mile ref, 1.5 miles with stock pack
- During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization. If not stated, then calculated assuming...
- Safety in case of major accident
- From discharged to the point the pack will no longerbe used in PHEV, to fully charged
- Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
- SLA: 0% down to 50%,
- Litium 0% down to 90%
- HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
- No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack
- PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.
BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.
The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source).