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− | !'''Location''' | + | ! <!-- Location --> '''Location''' |
− | !'''References'''<br>''local articles'' | + | ! <!-- Locl Ref --> '''References'''<br>''local articles'' |
− | !'''Product''' | + | ! <!-- Product --> '''Product''' |
− | ! | + | ! <!-- Convert --> '''Conv. service <ref name=convert_service/>''' |
− | !'''Conversion kit <ref name= | + | ! <!-- Kits --> '''Conversion kit <ref name=convert_service/>''' |
− | !'''Status''' | + | ! <!-- Status --> '''Status''' |
− | !'''# done so far''' | + | ! <!-- Num Cars --> '''# done so far''' |
− | !' | + | ! <!-- AERange --> '''EV range [mi] <ref name=ev_range/>''' |
− | !'''PHEV range [mi] <ref name=phev_range/>''' | + | ! <!-- BMRange --> '''PHEV range [mi] <ref name=phev_range/>''' |
− | !'''AC power''' | + | ! <!-- AC Input --> '''AC power''' |
− | !'''Charge time<br>[hours] <ref name=charge_time/>''' | + | ! <!-- Chg time --> '''Charge time<br>[hours] <ref name=charge_time/>''' |
− | ! | + | ! <!-- Safety --> '''Safety <ref name=safety/>''' |
− | !'''Additional<br>weight [kg]''' | + | ! <!-- Mass Add --> '''Additional<br>weight [kg]''' |
− | !'''Tire access <ref name=spare_tire/>''' | + | ! <!-- Spare --> '''Tire access <ref name=spare_tire/>''' |
− | !'''Cost [US$]''' | + | ! <!-- Cost --> '''Cost [US$]''' |
− | !'''Topology''' | + | ! <!-- Topology --> '''Topology''' |
− | !'''Pack energy [KWh]''' | + | ! <!-- Energy --> '''Pack energy [KWh]''' |
− | !'''Available energy<br>[KWh] <ref name=energy/>''' | + | ! <!-- Bat DOD --> '''Available energy<br>[KWh] <ref name=energy/>''' |
− | !'''Battery<br>type''' | + | ! <!-- Bat Chem --> '''Battery<br>type''' |
− | !' | + | ! <!-- Ins Time --> '''Install time''' |
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− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars] [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> California, Connecticut |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[PriusPlus]]'''/[[PriusPlus History|History]],<br> [[Inaugural Maker Faire|Maker Faire]],<br> [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [[PriusPlus]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> No |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> Yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Ready<br>Docs in progress |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 1st ever: 11/04<br>4 by 11/06 (1 NiMH,<br>1 chgd to PiPrius) |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 10-12 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> 20+ |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> 120-240 VAC |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 3 to 80%<br>11 to 100% <ref name=charge_time/> |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> 130+ |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> no |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> Batts: ~1K<br>Chgr: 0.9-2K<br>Sum: 4-7K+labor |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 4.8 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> 20 ea<br>BB Battery EVP20-12B<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid) |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> currently<br>>2 weeks |
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− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita Micro]/<br>[http://www.piprius.com PiPrius]/<br>[http://plugincenter.com/ Advanced Vehicle Initiative] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> Washington |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[PiPrius]]''',<br> [[PriusBlue]],<br> [[WhiteBird]],<br> [[GrayPearl]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [[PiPrius]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> No |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> Yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Development |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 2 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 10 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> 20-30 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac <ref name=charge_time/> |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> ~150 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> no |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View <ref name=pfc_regs/> |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 4.7 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> |
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− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]/<br>[http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> California / UK |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[EnergyCS]]''' /[[Amberjac]]:UK |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [[EnergyCS]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> Yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> No |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Production |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 7 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 30 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> 50 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> 120Vac |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 9.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> 83 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> no |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> 40K now |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> new pack only,<br>new BMS |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 9.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 8 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> future:<br>< 1day |
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− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive<br>Systems] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> California |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[EDrive]]''' |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [[EDrive]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> ? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> ? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Development |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 32? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> 60? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> 120-240 VAC |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 9.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Through cell<br>separation |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> ? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> ? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> new pack only,<br>new BMS |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 9.5 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 8.5? |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> Laptop<br>Cobalt LiIon<br>18650 cells |
− | |- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> ? |
− | |<!-- | + | |- |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion]/<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/company.html A123] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> Ontario |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[Hymotion]]''' |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [[Hymotion|PHEV-L5]] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> Yes, fleets |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> No |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Production |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 18 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 15 <ref name=hymotion_range/> |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> 120 / 220 Vac |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 5.5 / 4.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Spill-proof |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> 72 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> no |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> 10K in 100s |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 5.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon) |
− | |- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> < 1 day |
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− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- WebSite --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Location --> Colorado |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Locl Ref --> '''[[Hybrids-Plus]]''' |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Product --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-15-pnr.html Prius-15] / [http://hybrids-plus.com/ht/Prius04-PHEV-30-pnr.html Prius-30] |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Convert --> Yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Kits --> Future |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Status --> Production |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Num Cars --> 3 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AERange --> 15 / 30 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- BMRange --> 25 / 50 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- AC Input --> 120 Vac |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Chg time --> 5.5 / 9.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Safety --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Mass Add --> 21 / 81 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Spare --> yes |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Cost --> 24K / 32K now |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Topology --> new pack only<br>new BMS |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Energy --> 4.5 / 9.0 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat DOD --> 4 / 8 |
− | |<!-- | + | | <!-- Bat Chem --> 600 / 1200 ea<br>26650-size<br>iron-phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells |
− | |- | + | | <!-- Ins Time --> 4 hrs / 1 day |
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Revision as of 09:10, 28 June 2007
This from Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro: " I have two systems installed. We have 10 +miles range EV only I am not sure what the test variables are for Phev running.
The same charger that does the dc/Dc does the Grid recharge. We can sustain 30 plus amps of grid power at 240VAC That's 7.2Kw. We have data logs on a recahrge at less than 25 minutes. So we are in the .3 hours recharge range.
The BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode. Got the test done yesterday. Sweet operation. Oh yea the BMS is programmable with a laptop. With no security locks. I am doing this open source. We can and have extracted 4+ Kwhr from the add on pack.
The delivery cost is targeted at $10,000. I have my doubts that I can make the profit I want at this price. The brutal fact is anybody bragging about selling one of these kits for less than 10K is not looking at the bare bones costs of the hardware. I have to. since I am using my own funds, not some investors.
Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro" --DavideAndrea 14:17, 11 July 2006 (CDT)
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Spill proof Lead-Acid?
Why are the Lead Acid battery spill proof? Yes, I know, they are sealed. But, in case of perforation, in an accident, won't the acid come out? DavideAndrea 21:00, 10 January 2007 (CST)
Re: Spill proof Lead-Acid?
No, it won't spill like a flooded cell would. The electrolyte is suspended in fiberglass mat separators (a.k.a. absorbent glass mat - AGM.) In theory, even if the battery is punctured, within the rated temperatures, it will not spill since the electrolyte is in the mat, although a solid acid powder will probably come out in small quantities, but not in a liquid. If the battery is heated beyond its rated temperature (overcharge, short, etc), the electrolyte becomes liquid and can (and usually does) leak. A big concern with a punctured battery are the lead plates and the lead powder that gets formed and comes out when punctured, which is a health concern (acid is too, but easier to deal with and clean up.)
Re: Spill proof Lead-Acid?
Thanks!DavideAndrea 00:23, 11 January 2007 (CST)
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