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− | While troubleshooting some DC-DC Issues, suspected to be the fuse, dug back into Insight Hardware: | + | [[Image:2000 Honda Insight-1c340-PHM-003-Fuse.png|thumb|600px|The DC-DC fuse is part 2 here:]] |
+ | While troubleshooting some DC-DC Issues, suspected to be the fuse, dug back into Insight Hardware: Backstory: | ||
* Have been distracted by having been driving a Leaf, then another Leaf, Then a 2017 Bolt, and soon hopefully a CyberTruck. | * Have been distracted by having been driving a Leaf, then another Leaf, Then a 2017 Bolt, and soon hopefully a CyberTruck. | ||
* In the meantime, my 2000 Honda Insight has been sitting idle for years now. | * In the meantime, my 2000 Honda Insight has been sitting idle for years now. | ||
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** No special precautions were taken for storage, and there was some moisture build up due to leaks and or the moist climate. | ** No special precautions were taken for storage, and there was some moisture build up due to leaks and or the moist climate. | ||
* 2020 and 2021 every few months I would start up the ICE just to keep it happy, and during that time noticed the 12v system was not charging. | * 2020 and 2021 every few months I would start up the ICE just to keep it happy, and during that time noticed the 12v system was not charging. | ||
+ | * The 2000 Honda Insight is made by TDK and rated for 70Amps output side and by all accounts very efficient and robust. | ||
So, looking to get that back into service: | So, looking to get that back into service: | ||
− | [[Image: | + | [[Image:Dc-dc-schematic.JPG|thumb|600px|DC-DC Schematic]] |
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* [https://www.insightcentral.net/threads/substitute-fuse-dc-dc-converter-input.95682/#post-1479127 Musing use of a Circuit Breaker to replace (unavailable/Expensive) DC-DC Fuse] | * [https://www.insightcentral.net/threads/substitute-fuse-dc-dc-converter-input.95682/#post-1479127 Musing use of a Circuit Breaker to replace (unavailable/Expensive) DC-DC Fuse] | ||
* [https://www.insightcentral.net/threads/dc-to-dc-inverter-needed-for-experiment.21025/page-2#post-228676 DC-DC Operation out of vehicle] | * [https://www.insightcentral.net/threads/dc-to-dc-inverter-needed-for-experiment.21025/page-2#post-228676 DC-DC Operation out of vehicle] | ||
+ | ** Connect HV Side 80~220VDC: Orange to + and Black to - | ||
+ | ** Connect LV Side 13.95V Battery: White to + and Black to - | ||
+ | *** <s>Connect the (G) Blue/White to ground ''(Green/White inverter/car side of loom)''</s> Not required, Output to 12v battery does this apparently. | ||
+ | *** Connect the (P) Black/Yellow to +12 ''On/Off Toggle if you like, Minimum voltage for startup is 4.5v'' | ||
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+ | * Optional connections: | ||
+ | ** (B13) Yellow/Blue - inverter temp reading <s>(There may be NO INTERNAL OVER TEMP PROTECT so be careful or build one)</s> Yes, it does have internal thermal throttling. | ||
+ | ** (A27) Green/Black - DC-DC inhibit signal ''(?a faulty ground here may cause DC-DC to not function? Is normally pulled to +5v inside DC-DC)'' | ||
+ | ** ( A7) Red/Yellow - ECT (Engine Coolant Temp) 0.1~4.8v ie:10k on 5v ''(Used for higher output when cold, cold 12v battery)'' | ||
+ | ** ( A9) White/Green - DVC control signal (10Hz PWM but analog also worked? Adjusts output 12.3v~15.2v) '''(Ground this will stop inverter)''' | ||
+ | *** [https://www.insightcentral.net/threads/dc-to-dc-inverter-needed-for-experiment.21025/page-4#post-923849 More details] 0-2.5V=Off 2.5-5.0v=On (Analog or PWM) | ||
+ | **** No CEL lights if you cut DVC (WHT/GRN) or DVINH (GRN/BLK), that is, no need to add pullups to the ECM side of those lines if you cut them and control the DCDC with Linsight. | ||
+ | ** Brown/White - Gauge Assembly (Add: LED+1k resistor or 12v lamp as charge indicator, Will be off when DC-DC is active) ''(?Is this to ground or hot?)'' |
Latest revision as of 02:15, 14 April 2021
While troubleshooting some DC-DC Issues, suspected to be the fuse, dug back into Insight Hardware: Backstory:
- Have been distracted by having been driving a Leaf, then another Leaf, Then a 2017 Bolt, and soon hopefully a CyberTruck.
- In the meantime, my 2000 Honda Insight has been sitting idle for years now.
- 2018-2019 roughly, I pulled the IMA Battery and balanced all the 7.2v modules, replacing the weak ones, resulted in good IMA with no more recal events.
- No special precautions were taken for storage, and there was some moisture build up due to leaks and or the moist climate.
- 2020 and 2021 every few months I would start up the ICE just to keep it happy, and during that time noticed the 12v system was not charging.
- The 2000 Honda Insight is made by TDK and rated for 70Amps output side and by all accounts very efficient and robust.
So, looking to get that back into service:
- Musing use of a Circuit Breaker to replace (unavailable/Expensive) DC-DC Fuse
- DC-DC Operation out of vehicle
- Connect HV Side 80~220VDC: Orange to + and Black to -
- Connect LV Side 13.95V Battery: White to + and Black to -
Connect the (G) Blue/White to ground (Green/White inverter/car side of loom)Not required, Output to 12v battery does this apparently.- Connect the (P) Black/Yellow to +12 On/Off Toggle if you like, Minimum voltage for startup is 4.5v
- Optional connections:
- (B13) Yellow/Blue - inverter temp reading
(There may be NO INTERNAL OVER TEMP PROTECT so be careful or build one)Yes, it does have internal thermal throttling. - (A27) Green/Black - DC-DC inhibit signal (?a faulty ground here may cause DC-DC to not function? Is normally pulled to +5v inside DC-DC)
- ( A7) Red/Yellow - ECT (Engine Coolant Temp) 0.1~4.8v ie:10k on 5v (Used for higher output when cold, cold 12v battery)
- ( A9) White/Green - DVC control signal (10Hz PWM but analog also worked? Adjusts output 12.3v~15.2v) (Ground this will stop inverter)
- More details 0-2.5V=Off 2.5-5.0v=On (Analog or PWM)
- No CEL lights if you cut DVC (WHT/GRN) or DVINH (GRN/BLK), that is, no need to add pullups to the ECM side of those lines if you cut them and control the DCDC with Linsight.
- More details 0-2.5V=Off 2.5-5.0v=On (Analog or PWM)
- Brown/White - Gauge Assembly (Add: LED+1k resistor or 12v lamp as charge indicator, Will be off when DC-DC is active) (?Is this to ground or hot?)
- (B13) Yellow/Blue - inverter temp reading