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Current '''[[WikiPedia:Hybrid vehicle|W:Hybrid vehicles]]''' ([[HEV]]) such as the [[Honda Insight]], [[Toyota Prius]], and [[WikiPedia:List of hybrid vehicles|W:other hybrid vehicles]] are unfortunently not '''[[WikiPedia:Battery electric vehicle|W:Battery electric vehicles]]''' (BEV), as they can not use [[WikiPedia:Electricity|W:electricity]] as an external fuel source.  Rather they are gas cars with some electric car tricks, but not the most important ability of not using gassoline as [[WikiPedia:Fuel|W:fuel]].  So such vehicles may prove to become the missing links in the '''[[History]]''' of transportation.  The effeciency advantage of [[WikiPedia:Electric motor|W:electric motor]]s and [[WikiPedia:Battery|W:batteries]] are diminished with the requirement of burning [[WikiPedia:Combustion|W:combustables]] with an onboard [[WikiPedia:Heat engine|W:heat engine]].  Better it would be, to more fully utilize the [[WikiPedia:Waste heat|W:waste heat]] from traditional local power [[WikiPedia:Cogeneration|W:cogeneration]] plants.  With an eye towards [[WikiPedia:Wind power|W:wind]], [[WikiPedia:Solar power|W:solar]], and other [[WikiPedia:Sustainable|W:sustainable]] resources which will make BEVs cleaner as they age.  Rather than transitioning from gasoline current hybrids are merely a way to reduce ''(slightly)'' consumption of finite [[WikiPedia:Fossil fuels|W:fossil fuels]].  It's the versitility of using traditional combustion and an array of electric fuel sources which makes '''[[Plug-in hybrid electric vehicle]]s''' (PHEV) such an attractive solution which could be easily achieved today with off the shelf technologies.  As the president said in his 2005 State of the Union address "[[SEVA:User:Rjf#State of the Union 2005|America is addicted to oil]]", BEVs and PHEVs are critical to solutions capable of more than doubling transportation effeciency and eliminating vehicle CO2 emissions for most trips.  Since currently no production [[PHEV]]s exist, Hybrid Conversions are modified production vehicles with larger batteries and chargers.
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Hybrids can be clasified as [[Series Hybrid]]s like diesel locomotives, very heavy machinery, and EV's with pushers or on board generators; [[Parallel Hybrid]]s such as the Honda's [[IMA]]; and [[Series-Parallel Hybrid]]s like Toyota's [[HSD]], Ford's [[Ford Hybrid System]] [[WikiPedia:Ford Escape Hybrid|W:Ford Escape Hybrid]], and General Motors and DaimlerChrysler's [[AHS2]].
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The '''maillist discussions contain essential data''' which may not yet be covered on these pages or the related documentation.  They are a must-see for anyone contemplating doing a conversion!
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For an archive of past messages see the [http://www.eaa-phev.org/maillist EAA-PHEV Maillist Archive].  If the local archive is too slow you can also view threaded messages at the Yahoo! Groups replication of this maillist: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/
  
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==Subscriptions==
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{{Maillist Subscriptions}}
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==Maillist Archives==
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{{Maillist Archives}}
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==Local List Functions==
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''This is a replaca of the local maillist archive with descriptions of it's functions''
 
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| &nbsp; &nbsp; This is the local '''[http://www.eaa-phev.org/maillist EAA-PHEV Maillist Archive]''',<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; with some Members and a few messages.
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|| <font color=red>List name & link,<br>external links,<br>list statistics</font>
 
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| 2000 || [[Honda Insight]] || [[Insight PHEV]] ideas
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Show 2006 Month : &nbsp; ''' [[Maillist|2]] '''&nbsp; [[Maillist|1]] &nbsp;<br>
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| 2002 || [[Honda Civic Hybrid]] || none yet
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| 2005 || [[Honda Accord Hybrid]] || none yet
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<html><form action="http://www.eaa-phev.org/maillist" method="get"><input type="submit" value="Search EAA-PHEV Archive"><input size="18" maxlength="64" name="search" value=""> &nbsp; </form></html>
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| 2000 || [[Toyota Prius]] || none yet
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|| <font color=red>Search the list</font>
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| 2004 || [[Toyota Prius]] || [[Prius PHEV]]
 
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| 2006 || [[Toyota Camry Hybrid]] || none yet
 
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| 2005 || [[Toyota Highlander Hybrid]] || none yet
 
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| 2005 || [[Lexus RX 400h]] || none yet
 
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| 2005 || [[Ford Escape Hybrid]] || none yet
 
 
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| 2006 || [[Mercury Mariner Hybrid]] || none yet
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Sat, 29 Oct 2005 - [[EAA-PHEV_Maillist:2005./10./5|Ryan Fulcher : <font color=green>'''Re: First Prius Plus diagram for your review'''</font>]]<br>
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Tue, 25 Oct 2005 - [[EAA-PHEV_Maillist:2005./10./4|Felix Kramer : <font color=green>'''Re: EAA board approves PHEV SIG'''</font>]]<br>
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Tue, 25 Oct 2005 - [[EAA-PHEV_Maillist:2005./10./3|Jerry Pohorsky : <font color=green>'''EAA board approves PHEV SIG'''</font>]]<br>
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| 2006 || [[Chevrolet Silverado Hybrid]] &nbsp; &nbsp; || maybe never, it's a ''Mild hybrid''
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* Toyota [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/49804 Sales] [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/messagesearch?query=Michelle%20Vadeboncoeur%20history Michelle Vadeboncoeur]
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==Technical Stuff==
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Features, or lack there of:
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* The local mail list archive script is evolving but currently does not do:
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Prototype Hybrids:
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* [[EVDL_Maillist:2006./3./32|EVDL - Low-cost hybrid version of Honda Fit subcompact car]], [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/49521 Yahoo Prius-G2], [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/honda-hybrid/message/19438 Yahoo honda-hybrid]
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*# Threading of messages '''(Use the [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev Yahoo! Archive])'''.
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* ? [http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2005/15/c0385.html Azure Dynamics Corporation]
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*# Decompiling of message attachments ''(Currently not available to non-subscribers)''.
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* ? [http://fleetowner.com/news/hino_hybrid_north_america_111104/ Hino Hybrid Trucks] - Tractor Trucks
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* [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/message/91198 2006 Detroit, Los Angeles Auto Show Index] Hybrids
 
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* PSA Peugeot Citroen Diesel Hybrid - ''by 2010''
 
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** [http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/31/psa-peugeot-citroen-unveils-diesel-hybrid-technology/ PSA Peugeot Citroen unveils diesel hybrid technology] [http://www.techreview.com/NanoTech-Devices/wtr_16343,303,p1.html] [http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109163] [http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=13884] [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius_Technical_Stuff/message/15535]
 
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==Other Links==
 
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* [[WikiPedia:Hybrid vehicle]] - [[WikiPedia:List of hybrid vehicles]]
 
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* http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Hybrid_Vehicles
 
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* http://www.greenhybrid.com
 
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* http://www.hybridcenter.org
 
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* http://www.hybrid-vehicles.net
 
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* http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities
 
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* http://www.ctts.nrel.gov/analysis/hev_test/data.shtml - Hybrid Electric Vehicle Testing (Insight and Prius)
 
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* http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hybrid-car.htm
 
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* [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius_Technical_Stuff/message/15794 hybrid engineering report] [http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/vi/w4_workshops/Miller_W04.pdf pdf]
 
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* http://www.hybridfest.com
 
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* Hybrid Cost Calculators - [http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/hev/calculator/single.php] [http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/hev/cost_calc.html], [http://www.newdream.org/hev]
 
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* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius_Technical_Stuff/message/15705 PSD a Misnomer] should be Torque Split Device
 
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[[Image:Prius 50kmph frontal impact.jpg|100px|right|]]
 
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* [https://www.serviceexpress.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/CI/AXX28935.pdf Honda]
 
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* [http://techinfo.toyota.com/public/main/erg.html Toyota] [http://techinfo.toyota.com/public/main/1stprius.pdf Prius G1] [http://techinfo.toyota.com/public/main/2ndprius.pdf Prius G2]
 
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* [http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/quickref/guide-escape.pdf Ford] [http://www.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/vdirs/quickref/guide-escape.pdf]
 
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* [[:Image:LA_County_Electric_and_Hybrid_Vehicle_Hazards.pdf|LA County EV & Hybrid Vehicle Hazards]]
 
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* Bad Press ( “At this point, it’s totally overemphasized as a hazard” )
 
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** [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/41556 Hybrid and BEV safety documents] - for first responders.
 
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** http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=24028&pg=1
 
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** [http://priusonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=5549&view=previous&sid=b5c01c5748be4711633cafff0fd83770 priusonline.com]
 
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** http://www.hybridcars.com/hybrids-fires-emergencies.html
 
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** [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/links/Technical_Mechanical_000966854260/Emergency_Responders_001011822061/ More]
 
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The [[CalCars_Maillist:]] is a great resource for current news regarding PHEVs,
 
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visit the Official CalCars-News Yahoo group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news.
 
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* The [[Gridable_Maillist:]] or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids
 
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* The [[PriusPlus_Maillist:]] or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/priusplus
 
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http://www.komotv.com/news/images/hybrid_sealion_011106.jpg
 
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* January 11, 2006 - [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/47774 Sea Lion Gives New Hybrid Cars His Seal Of Approval] [http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=ad1a84e2-85aa-44d3-8967-7972a0be2d54,ad1a84e2-85aa-44d3-8967-7972a0be2d54,69968e22-baec-4126-8d2d-0f87013efa70,17942839-beac-4f78-8563-373623437715,b2c697a0-721d-464b-ab70-d6dc0270f7a8,aa6c61ba-13fe-489e-8790-926e63233625,&t=m5 video]
 
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* Hybrid Taxes [http://www.uschamber.com/ncf/publications/default.htm uschamber.com]
 
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** 2005.11.25 - Yahoo Prius-2G [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/46013 Chamber Suggests Taxing Hybrids and Billing Drivers By the Mile]
 
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** 2005.11.26 - EVDL [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/53493 Extra TAX on High-Milage Hybrids ?? WHAT !!]
 
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** 2005.11.25 - mercurynews.com [http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/13254673.htm Report suggests taxing hybrids, billing drivers by mile]
 
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* 2005.08.23 - cnn.com [http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=Cars%20with%20electric%20appeal Cars with electric appeal] - '''Video'''
 
  
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* 2005.08.23 - [http://www.wusatv.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=42383Firefighters wusatv.com] - Blast Columnist For Remarks On Emergency Crews, Hybrid Vehicles [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/41514 Y]
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Local and Remote List Archival and Restoration:
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** In reference to [http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=27&article_id=9844&page_number=1 Brock Yates, Hybrid issues, and a rising star at Indy.]
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* You can write a script to fetch messages incrementally from a group, request the full header, strip off the surrounding page, verify you got each message before proceeding, and pace yourself.
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** http://www.pgoffline.com
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** http://www.download3000.com/download-count-home-8634.html (files ane photos also)
  
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* 2005.08.21 - delawareonline.com [http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050821/NEWS01/508210332/1006 More drivers turning to hybrid options]
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The maillist discussions contain essential data which may not yet be covered on these pages or the related documentation. They are a must-see for anyone contemplating doing a conversion! For an archive of past messages see the EAA-PHEV Maillist Archive. If the local archive is too slow you can also view threaded messages at the Yahoo! Groups replication of this maillist: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/

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Local List Functions

This is a replaca of the local maillist archive with descriptions of it's functions

    This is the local EAA-PHEV Maillist Archive,
        with some Members and a few messages. 		List name & link,
external links,
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 Maillist layout
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Search the list

Sat, 29 Oct 2005 - Ryan Fulcher : Re: First Prius Plus diagram for your review
Tue, 25 Oct 2005 - Felix Kramer : Re: EAA board approves PHEV SIG
Tue, 25 Oct 2005 - Jerry Pohorsky : EAA board approves PHEV SIG

 List messages

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Technical Stuff

Features, or lack there of:

  • The local mail list archive script is evolving but currently does not do:
    1. It might be slow and could probably be optimized to go a lot faster.
    2. Threading of messages (Use the Yahoo! Archive).
    3. Decompiling of message attachments (Currently not available to non-subscribers).
    4. Though it searches the entire archive, it only matches "a single string".
    5. There is no download feature, but I might add one soon.

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