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|<!-- CalCars  --> [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars] [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy]
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> [http://www.calcars.org/ CalCars] [http://www.electroenergyinc.com/ Electroenergy]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita Micro]/<br>[http://www.piprius.com PiPrius]/<br>[http://plugincenter.com/ Advanced Vehicle Initiative]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> [http://www.manzanitamicro.com/ Manzanita Micro]/<br>[http://www.piprius.com PiPrius]/<br>[http://plugincenter.com/ Advanced Vehicle Initiative]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]/<br>[http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive<br>Systems]<br>[http://www.goingreen.co.uk/ GoingGreen]<br>[http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac]
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|<!-- EnergyCS--> [http://energycs.com/ EnergyCS]/<br>[http://www.goingreen.co.uk/ GoingGreen]<br>[http://w10.eleven2.com/~plugin/ Amberjac]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://edrivesystems.com/ EDrive<br>Systems]
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion]/<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/company.html A123]
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> [http://hymotion.com/ Hymotion]/<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/company.html A123]
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus]
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> [http://hybrids-plus.com/ Hybrids-Plus]
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|<!-- CalCars  --> California, Connecticut
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> California, Connecticut
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Washington
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Washington
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|<!-- EDrive  --> California / UK
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|<!-- EnergyCS--> California / UK
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|<!-- EDrive  --> California
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Ontario
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Ontario
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Colorado
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Colorado
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|<!-- CalCars  --> '''[[PriusPlus]]'''/[[PriusPlus History|History]],<br> [[Inaugural Maker Faire|Maker Faire]],<br> [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius]
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> '''[[PriusPlus]]'''/[[PriusPlus History|History]],<br> [[Inaugural Maker Faire|Maker Faire]],<br> [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/343 EEEI Prius]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> '''[[PiPrius]]''',<br> [[PriusBlue]],<br> [[WhiteBird]],<br> [[GrayPearl]]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> '''[[PiPrius]]''',<br> [[PriusBlue]],<br> [[WhiteBird]],<br> [[GrayPearl]]
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|<!-- EDrive  --> '''[[EDrive]]'''<br>'''[[GoingGreen]]''' /[[Amberjac]]:UK
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|<!-- EnergyCS--> '''[[EnergyCS]]''' /[[Amberjac]]:UK
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|<!-- EDrive  --> '''[[EDrive]]'''
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> '''[[Hymotion]]'''
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> '''[[Hymotion]]'''
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> '''[[Hybrids-Plus]]'''
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> '''[[Hybrids-Plus]]'''
  
 
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|<!-- CalCars  --> [[PriusPlus]]
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> [[PriusPlus]]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> [[PiPrius]]
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> [[PiPrius]]
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> [[EnergyCS]]
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> [[EDrive]]
 
|<!-- EDrive  --> [[EDrive]]
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> [[Hymotion|PHEV-L5]]
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> [[Hymotion|PHEV-L5]]
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|<!-- CalCars  --> No
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> No
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> No
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> No
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Yes
+
|<!-- EnergyCS --> Yes
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Yes, fleets
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Yes, fleets
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Yes
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Yes
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Yes
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> Yes
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Yes
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Yes
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|<!-- EDrive  --> No
+
|<!-- EnergyCS --> No
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> No
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> No
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Future
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Future
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Ready<br>Docs in progress
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> Ready<br>Docs in progress
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Development
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Development
−
|<!-- EDrive  -->  
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> Production
−
|<!-- Hymotion --> Ready
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Development
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Development
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|<!-- Hymotion --> Production
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Production
  
 
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|- bgcolor="#E0E0F0"
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 1st ever: 11/04<br>4 by 11/06 (1 NiMH,<br>1 chgd to PiPrius)
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 1st ever: 11/04<br>4 by 11/06 (1 NiMH,<br>1 chgd to PiPrius)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 2
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 2
−
|<!-- EDrive  --> 7
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 7
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 0
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 18
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 18
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 1
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|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 3
  
 
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 10-12
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 10-12
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 10
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 10
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 30
+
|<!-- EnergyCS --> 30
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 15 (6)
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 15 (6)
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 15 / 30
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 15 / 30
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 20+
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 20+
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 20-30
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 20-30
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 50
+
|<!-- EnergyCS --> 50
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion -->  
 
|<!-- Hymotion -->  
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 25 / 50
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 25 / 50
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 120-240 VAC
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 120-240 VAC
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Universal:<br>90 to 300 Vac/Vdc
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 120Vac
+
|<!-- EnergyCS --> 120Vac
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 120 / 220 Vac
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 120 / 220 Vac
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 120 Vac
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 120 Vac
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 3 to 80%<br>11 to 100% (4)
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 3 to 80%<br>11 to 100% (4)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac (4)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 3.0 @ 120 Vac/<br>0.3 @ 240 Vac (4)
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 9.0
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.5 / 4.0
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 5.5 / 9.0
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 5.5 / 9.0
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
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|<!-- EDrive  --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Spill-proof
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Spill-proof
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> Flame-proof<br>Spill-proof
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 130+
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 130+
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> ~150
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> ~150
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 83
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 83
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 72
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 72
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 21 / 81
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 21 / 81
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|<!-- CalCars  --> no
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> no
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> no
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> no
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|<!-- EDrive  --> no
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> no
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> no
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> no
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> yes
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> yes
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Batts: ~1K<br>Chgr: 0.9-2K<br>Sum: 4-7K+labor
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> Batts: ~1K<br>Chgr: 0.9-2K<br>Sum: 4-7K+labor
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+<br>Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K<br>Target: ~ 10K
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 40K now
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 40K now
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 10K in 100s
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 10K in 100s
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 24K / 32K now
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 24K / 32K now
  
 
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|- bgcolor="#F0E0E0"
 
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|<!-- CalCars  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/contactor,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View (8)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack<br>w/DC-DC,<br>stock BMS,<br>CAN-View (8)
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|<!-- EDrive  --> new pack only,<br>new BMS
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> new pack only,<br>new BMS
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Stock pack<br>+ new pack,<br>stock BMS
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> new pack only<br>new BMS
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> new pack only<br>new BMS
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 4.8
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 4.8
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4.7
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4.7
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 9.0
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 9.0
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.0
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 5.0
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4.5 / 9.0
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4.5 / 9.0
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 2.4-3.8<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
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|<!-- EDrive  --> 8
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> 8
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|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> 4<br>+ 0.3 stock
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4 / 8
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4 / 8
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|<!-- CalCars  --> 20 ea<br>BB Battery EVP20-12B<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> 20 ea<br>BB Battery EVP20-12B<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice
 
|<!-- PiPrius  --> 15 ea<br>Hawker EP26<br>SLA (Sealed<br>Lead-Acid)<br>or pack of choice
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|<!-- EDrive  --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> [http://www.valence.com/ Valence]<br>[http://www.valence.com/saphion.asp Saphion]<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br>LiIon cells<br>extracted from<br>[http://www.valence.com/ucharge.asp U-Charge]<br>packs
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon)
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> Lithium<br>polymer<br>(future:<br>A123 LiIon)
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 600 / 1200 ea<br>[http://hybrids-plus.com/pmwiki/index.php?n=Ext.A123Cells  26650-size<br>A123-brand<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells]<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/products/ANR26650M1specs.pdf pdf]
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 600 / 1200 ea<br>[http://hybrids-plus.com/pmwiki/index.php?n=Ext.A123Cells  26650-size<br>A123-brand<br>phosphate<br>cathode<br> LiIon cells]<br>[http://www.a123systems.com/html/products/ANR26650M1specs.pdf pdf]
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|<!-- CalCars  --> currently<br>>2 weeks
 
|<!-- CalCars  --> currently<br>>2 weeks
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
−
|<!-- EDrive  --> future:<br>< 1day
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|<!-- EnergyCS --> future:<br>< 1day
 +
|<!-- EDrive  --> ?
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> < 1 day
 
|<!-- Hymotion --> < 1 day
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4 hrs / 1 day
 
|<!-- Hybrids+ --> 4 hrs / 1 day
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|<!-- CalCars  -->  
 
|<!-- CalCars  -->  
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
 
|<!-- PiPrius  -->  
 +
|<!-- EnergyCS -->
 
|<!-- EDrive  -->  
 
|<!-- EDrive  -->  
 
|<!-- Hymotion -->  
 
|<!-- Hymotion -->  
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Revision as of 16:18, 12 June 2007

Comparison table: PHEV conversion and kit options for the Toyota Prius:
Organization: external websites CalCars Electroenergy Manzanita Micro/
PiPrius/
Advanced Vehicle Initiative 		EnergyCS/
GoingGreen
Amberjac 		EDrive
Systems 		Hymotion/
A123 		Hybrids-Plus
Location: California, Connecticut Washington California / UK California Ontario Colorado
References: local articles PriusPlus/History,
Maker Faire,
EEEI Prius 		PiPrius,
PriusBlue,
WhiteBird,
GrayPearl 		EnergyCS /Amberjac:UK EDrive Hymotion Hybrids-Plus
Product: PriusPlus PiPrius EnergyCS EDrive PHEV-L5 Prius-15 / Prius-30
Conv. service: (9) No No Yes ? Yes, fleets Yes
Conversion kit: (9) Yes Yes No ? No Future
Status: Ready
Docs in progress 		Development Production Development Production Production
No done so far: 1st ever: 11/04
4 by 11/06 (1 NiMH,
1 chgd to PiPrius) 		2 7 0 18 3
EV range [mi] (1): 10-12 10 30 ? 15 (6) 15 / 30
PHEV range [mi] (2): 20+ 20-30 50 ? 25 / 50
AC power: 120-240 VAC Universal:
90 to 300 Vac/Vdc 		120Vac ? 120 / 220 Vac 120 Vac
Charge time
[hours] (4): 		3 to 80%
11 to 100% (4) 		3.0 @ 120 Vac/
0.3 @ 240 Vac (4) 		9.0 ? 5.5 / 4.0 5.5 / 9.0
Safety (3): Flame-proof
Spill-proof 		Flame-proof
Spill-proof 		Flame-proof
Spill-proof 		? Spill-proof Flame-proof
Spill-proof
Additional
weight [kg]: 		130+ ~150 83 ? 72 21 / 81
Tire access (7): no no no ? no yes
Cost [US$]: Batts: ~1K
Chgr: 0.9-2K
Sum: 4-7K+labor 		Batts: 0.8K~1.2K+
Charger/DC-DC: ~1.8K
Target: ~ 10K 		40K now ? 10K in 100s 24K / 32K now
Topology: Stock pack
+ new pack
w/contactor,
stock BMS,
CAN-View 		Stock pack
+ new pack
w/DC-DC,
stock BMS,
CAN-View (8) 		new pack only,
new BMS 		? Stock pack
+ new pack,
stock BMS 		new pack only
new BMS
Pack energy [KWh]: 4.8 4.7 9.0 ? 5.0 4.5 / 9.0
Available energy
[KWh] (5): 		2.4-3.8
+ 0.3 stock 		4
+ 0.3 stock 		8 ? 4
+ 0.3 stock 		4 / 8
Battery
type: 		20 ea
BB Battery EVP20-12B
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid) 		15 ea
Hawker EP26
SLA (Sealed
Lead-Acid)
or pack of choice 		Valence
Saphion
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells
extracted from
U-Charge
packs 		? Lithium
polymer
(future:
A123 LiIon) 		600 / 1200 ea
26650-size
A123-brand
phosphate
cathode
LiIon cells
pdf
Instal. time: currently
>2 weeks 		future:
< 1day 		? < 1 day 4 hrs / 1 day
Notes:

Notes:

  1. Assuming <35 mph, 210 Wh/mile (260 Wh/mi from grid) ref, 1.5 miles with stock pack
  2. During which the mileage is on the order of 100 mpg. Shows range as stated by organization.
  3. Safety in case of major accident
    1. Many Lithium cells will burst in flames if penetrated. However, phosphate cathode LiIon cells (such as Valence and A123) are flame-proof.
    2. SLA batteries contain lead and sulphuric acid but are spill-proof
  4. From discharged to the point the pack will no longer be used in PHEV, to fully charged (per Orbital, SLA require 8 hr taper -- done at least once every 3 days -- after near full charge, to reach 100% and prevent sulfation)
  5. Because the DOD of the stock pack is limited by the Prius, only about 0.3 KWh of its energy is available (US). It is assumed that additional batteries are limited to a DOD range of:
    1. SLA: 0% down to 50%,
    2. Litium 0% down to 90%
  6. HiMotion states 50 km (30 miles) pure EV range. Yet 4.3 KWh calculates out to 15 miles.
  7. No = original tire well is covered or occupied by new battery pack
  8. PiPrius notes. PFC40 charger doubles at the DC-DC converter between packs.
    BMS is a Rudman Reg Mark 3 on every battery. It is fully protected on charge mode and discharge mode.
    The BMS is programmable with a laptop, with no security locks (open source).
  9. Conversion service: done by the PHEV conversion company, at their location.
    Conversion kit: done by the owners in their hometown.
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